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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 06:26 PM
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Senate passes $410B budget with 7.7B in earmarks by voice vote after cloture vote of 62-35.
Edited on Tue Mar-10-09 06:27 PM by flpoljunkie
Interesting.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 06:33 PM
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1. That means more Repubs rejected it?! But they had the most earmarks.
I hope someone proves me right, so I can say at least they remain the party of "no." That or they're the party of 'Hypocrites with an exponent.'
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 06:44 PM
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3. MCcain voted FOR the bush wall street bailout $700 bil ....how bout this one? nt
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 06:36 PM
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2. I wonder which Republicans voted for cloture
Hmmm.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 07:14 PM
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9. What's cloture?! Oy..off to google.n/t
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 10:23 AM
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15. It's a vote to end debate
In the Senate you can hold a bill up by debating until the end of time. That's how they filibuster a bill. A cloture vote is a vote to end the debating, but it requires 60 votes to pass. In this case, there were 62 votes to end debate. At that point, they voted on the bill itself. That vote only needed a simple majority.

Just to be pedantic :evilgrin:, the "nuclear option" the Repugnicans threatened when we were in the minority was to change the Senate rules so that a cloture vote only would require a simple majority. That way, we couldn't filibuster their bills. They never did it, though.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 06:48 PM
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4. Cloture roll call
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 06:52 PM
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5. Thanks.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 07:16 PM
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10. Huh...about 7-8 Repubs voted for cloture. Interesting. n/t
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PM7nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 06:54 PM
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6. Alexander, Bond, Murkowski, Shelby, Snowe, Specter, Wicker - AYE
Bayh, Feingold, McCaskill - NAY

Odd.
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TheBigotBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 07:10 PM
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7. Bayh, Feingold and McCaskill ???
WTF is going on there? I hope this is not what to expect over the next 4 years.
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 10:45 PM
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14. McCaskill? Susan Collins, who voted for the stimulus bill? I wonder why? nt
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 07:13 PM
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8. they probably want to take a stand against earmarks and higher spending
i think the explanation is "optics".

also since Obama is not directly associated with this budget, it allows them the safest route to criticize spending without taking on Obama.

how's that?
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 07:17 PM
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11. Well both Bayh and Feingold publicly reprimanded President Obama already.
Edited on Tue Mar-10-09 07:18 PM by vaberella
For this bill.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 10:26 AM
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16. Bayh even starred on Greta's Faux news show.
:puke:
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 12:00 PM
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17. Isn't he special? n/t
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 09:52 PM
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12. As someone who studies public finance on a routine basis, complaints of pork
are just useless and actually obscure real problems in spending. There are huge programs, rather than these fringe things, that suck up tens of billions. Most pork items amount to quite little. We get pissed about them because sometimes they are really silly. However, compared to systemic ineffective programs and improper control on contracts, it pales in comparison.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 01:49 PM
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18. Yet CNN's Ed Henry kept badgering Robert Gibbs about Obama signing bill with earmarks.
Give is a rest, Ed! Surely, you do not really believe that the 1.8% of the omnibus budget bill appropriations that are earmarked amount to a 'hill of beans.'

It's all about 'gotcha' for these pathetic cable nerds.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 09:53 PM
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13. Hmm...
Didn't Kent Conrad say that the votes just weren't there?
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