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mikiturner Donating Member (581 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 03:27 PM
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MSNBC Producers Told Not To Talk About Stewart's Demolition of Cramer/CNBC!
Edited on Fri Mar-13-09 03:29 PM by mikiturner
Oh my:

A TVNewser tipster tells us MSNBC producers were asked not to incorporate the Jim Cramer/Jon Stewart interview into their shows today. In fact, the only time it came up on MSNBC was during the White House briefing, when a member of the press corps asked Press Secretary Robert Gibbs if Pres. Obama watched. Gibbs wasn't sure if the president had, but Gibbs did. "I enjoyed it thoroughly," the Press Secretary said.

On Cramer's network, CNBC, the subject has only come up twice today, including when master marketer/CNBC personality Donny Deutsch brought it up briefly around 1pm on "Power Lunch." "I'm a huge Jon Stewart fan," said Deutsch, "He does what he does he does his job. But I'm also a huge Jim Cramer fan. He sticks up for the little guy, he cares, he puts his neck out, and I respect that. I respect both those guys."

Cramer appeared on his regular "Stop Trading" segment during "Street Signs." But the Daily Show did not come up. With anchor Erin Burnett in Washington, the discussion was about banking policy and the Federal Reserve, ending with Cramer saying, "Ben Bernanke's got the magic." (A far cry from Cramer's "Wake-Up" call to Bernanke in August '07.)

Insiders tell TVNewser Cramer will talk about Stewart tonight on "Mad Money" (6pmET & 11pmET).


Teh Fail! It Burns!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

This obviously answers the question of why Doucheborough, CNBC, and Today were rather quiet today.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 03:28 PM
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1. i believe it, i was at the car dealer today getting my serviced yet again and M$NBC
was on the whole time, not a mention of either guy.
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 03:30 PM
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2. I wonder if Tweety will go there...Cannot wait! You just know KO will....n/t
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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 03:36 PM
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4. MSNBC will get their wish until the 2pm PST hour. After that, I have a tough time believing it
won't be discussed. Shuster should have some fun with it too.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 03:39 PM
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5. that's my feeling as well
:hi:
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earthboundmisfit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 03:42 PM
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6. And Rachel
;-)

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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 03:55 PM
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8. Can't wait to see who'll bring it up!
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 03:35 PM
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3. Quick, sweep that under that rug over there.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 03:54 PM
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7. They should, Cramer was humbled and offered some change the rest of them are...
...well...they have less character
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flakey_foont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 04:04 PM
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9. bet ol' Rushbo hates Cramer
taken all the attention away from Rush
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 04:11 PM
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10. I will say Cramer didn't have to go on the show and become a symbol
for all that brought us into the financial mess we're in. I hand it to him for that. He was humble and took some responsibility.

Sorry, I know that will not be a popular position. ;)
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 06:11 PM
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19. I agree. I watched it all on the 'Net and have to give Cramer a lot of credit for going there...
Oddly enough I ended up sympathizing with Cramer -- I ended up thinking the wrong man was getting the smackdown from Jon Stewart. Mr H (the family MBA) watched over my shoulders and was very disturbed by it, which made me rethink my glee at Jon's performance.

Jon Stewart delivered a heroic and well-deserved smackdown -- but did he get the right guy?

Hekate




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Doremus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 07:06 PM
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22. He got *one* of the right guys.
I don't think the Daily Show's studio is large enough to hold all the "right guys."

How do we know Cramer's one of them? The smoking gun was Cramer himself, speaking candidly, on tape that he never thought would be broadcast.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 10:35 PM
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33. Cramer articulated that he was trying to share what happens,
not necessarily what he does. However, I will not say that I believe that explanation. ;)
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 10:34 PM
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32. Hello Hekate.
I felt exactly the same.


:hi:
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Louis-Emmanuel Donating Member (180 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 04:20 PM
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11. I hope Olbermann doesn't let MSNBC tell him what to do
Cramer was spanked and it has to be reported. Commentators should be free to criticize anyone.
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Medusa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 08:47 PM
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28. He does and he did.
Nothing on cramer tonight on his show. But Rachel covered it. Go Rachel!
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 08:50 PM
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29. This is what Keith had to say about it:
http://www.dailykos.com/comments/2009/3/13/182441/605/333#c333

The assumption that we would automatically do a story on a story Jon Stewart did is not a good one.

There is no interaction between his show and mine, and while it's possible that we did some significant segments on any of his previous smackdowns or vivisections (as good as they might have been), I don't remember when that would've been. So it's either not happened, or it hasn't happened in a long time.

Also the premise of corporate no-touch orders to keep what happened "quiet" is silly. That horse (in fact, an entire stable-full) left that barn as soon as the video hit the internet. My understanding is Rachel's doing a little something on this.

There is also - and of course I know this from being on the other end - the element of competitive gamesmanship about this. If there had been anybody of Cramer's heft on Fox Business, subjected to Stewart's hammering, I don't know that ABC, CBS and Fox would've been quite so interested in covering it. Conversely, I recall Stewart doing a lot of hammering of Foxies and it's not like I've turned all of those into 10-minute segments on this show.
-----------------------------

I've been at the Mets game all day

So I'm reading the TVNewser post for the first time.

Frankly, the guy who posted this, the site's Associate Editor, Steve Krakauer ("SteveK"), is well known around the industry as being entirely in Fox's pocket.

His "MSNBC producers have been told" not to mention this, is, frankly, bullshit.

Have a look at his posts on this otherwise successfully neutral site: they are Fox News and Fox Business Channel press release rewrites, and anonymous criticisms from "industry sources" of people at CNN and MSNBC.

The Fox Business stuff is particularly egregious and particularly relevant to this. If a newspaper with a circulation of 500 people runs a feature on somebody on that channel, SteveK summarizes it, posts a picture from it, posts a link to it. I mean, seriously, if there's been any publicity for this channel that has yet to get a measurable audience after a year on the air (that means they're under 15,000 viewers), that hasn't gotten a link on TVNewser courtesy SteveK, it'd be a shocking upset.

Rachel could get the cover of Newsweek and he wouldn't link to it.

So, did Stewart do a good job? Obviously. Did we get ordered not to run it? Nope. Was stirring up rumors about a ban in the interest of a Foxophilic blogger with the credibility of a bush league Drudge? You bet.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 10:33 PM
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31. Thanks for this...
I am glad Keith commented on it. It IS interesting the guy who posted the rumor is known as being in "fox's pocket. It certainly will make me more skeptical of anything he or his site posts.

Thanks again, it's always helpful to get the facts from someone who would know.
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 04:31 PM
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12. well, why would they want to bring attention to the fact that cramer got his ass handed to him
and basically lost the 'financial expert' tag.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 04:40 PM
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13. Gibbs didn't let them off that easy. Don't they have to report what the WH Press Secretary said?
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namahage Donating Member (678 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 04:45 PM
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14. Weird...it's on the MSNBC website:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 06:10 PM
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18. That is weird..
<snip> from your article..

"Stewart said he and Cramer are both snake-oil salesman, only “The Daily Show” is labeled as such. He claimed CNBC shirked its journalistic duty by believing corporate lies, rather than being an investigative “powerful tool of illumination.” And he alleged CNBC was ultimately in bed with the businesses it covered — that regular people’s stocks and 401Ks were “capitalizing your adventure.”

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ericgtr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 08:19 PM
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24. It's just an AP feed, they successfully gagged all of their people today nt
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 05:08 PM
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15. GE - shiny happy people
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Hansel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 06:02 PM
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16. Self delete.
Edited on Fri Mar-13-09 06:04 PM by Hansel
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 06:07 PM
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17. Cover up by the corporatemedia.
whore$$$~ Who woulda thunk.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 06:28 PM
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20. So did Cramer talk about Jon Stewart on Mad Money?
He played a clip from his Martha Stewart appearance and that was it. I fast forwarded at 60x and didn't see it come upa gain.
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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 07:03 PM
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21. Doesn't look like even KO is going to venture into this story. Some serious punishments
must have been threatened for dissenters.
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ericgtr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 08:09 PM
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23. They should be held to the fire for this I am very dissapointed in MSNBC
They are forcing their network to cover up actual news because someone from their sister station got spanked. I have always held MSNBC up as one of my main sources of news but after this I have lost a lot of respect.
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Leo The Cleo Donating Member (352 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 08:34 PM
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25. If this is true . . .
then I understand.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 08:36 PM
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26. Rachel just covered it. n/t
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ericgtr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 08:46 PM
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27. She didn't mention CNBC but at least she did say something so good for her
Today she is the only one there I have any faith in.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 09:43 PM
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30. She showed Cramer's face and I THOUGHT she said his ratings have gone down
suddenly and millions of people have watched the video of the interview.
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