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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 04:07 AM
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Death by a Thousand Cuts- A Strategy to combat Change
Edited on Sun Mar-15-09 04:56 AM by FrenchieCat
I have some serious questions about the next four years, some answers, and some food for thought.

Do we think that we are going to get some of the changes that this country needs without a great big fight from the established Status Quo; Those who want as little change as possible?

As for those who believe that President Obama will not bring all of the change that we need, do you still suspect that Pres. Obama is likely to accomplish some of the Change that he promised, or do you think that it will come from another source, although that source may not have any real power to actually get it done?

I ask, because from where I sit, it appears that the Corporate enablers/minions are putting out as many un-sourced, unattributed BS articles on various issues, designed to erode Obama's base and turn as many as possible on various issues against him.

The strategy to counter President Obama is death by a thousand cuts.

Think about it! It is the only offensive available to fight President Obama's executed strategy of presenting many plans all at once. There are too many to be argued down (and he's not finished by a long shot), and rather than fighting that losing battle of looking like the party of NO, the enemy has figured that they might be able to knock down his support on many different fronts and win the battle that way. The only alternative is to present new ideas of their own, but since they are not about change, and they have no new ideas for each and every single proposal, there is no there going that route.

So how many of us will be all too willing to buy the horse manure blatantly shoveled into our faces? My hope is not too many, because what we don't need is to figure it all out after we are left scratching our collective behinds minus any health plan, education reform, or the most transformative Democratic Budget ever proposed?

I suspect that they (those not into change) understand that the lower Obama's poll numbers go, the less of a mandate for change our President will have. And they certainly have been taking digs at Obama's poll numbers, warning us that they "will" be falling, and treating his 50 days in the white house as though it was his 100 days, that is when they are not asking you to "grade" him...which is like, all of the time. The media also kept saying that the honeymoon was nearing an end, but yet the day after inauguration, the gloves were already off.

Here's a current example courtesy of CNN: http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/europe/03/14/russia.cuba.bombers/index.html

Another sample from Politico: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0309/19824.html

The New York Times does its thing: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/15/us/politics/15health.html?hp

The WAPO joins in: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/13/AR2009031303486.html?nav=hcmodule

and of course, the electronic chattering media always get their voices heard, especially on Sundays....but everyday is a good day for bashing Barack Obama on whatever......

Backup to what I'm talking about: http://mediamatters.org/countyfair/200903130007 AND
http://mediamatters.org/countyfair/200903040014

Meanwhile, allegedly....Santelli and his tea party have disappeared (media mystery), Rush is in a witness protection program of his own (too true), the outcome of Kramer vs. Stewart became not important enough for the General Electric Family to report on (bullshit), Bush is being rehabilitated via his mouthpieces (See Ari on Hardball, and on C-span, Cheney on CNN tomorrow), Osama Bin Laden has a new tape out(fear), Mexico is at war with itself spilling onto our borders (fear), Cuba might just allow Russian missiles onto their shores (fear), every single person on Obama's economic team is a Wall Street hoodlum that doesn't have a clue (doubt), Hillary is committing treason against Israel (APAIC), and Pres. Obama wants to privatize everything all of the sudden from education to social security to medicare to tax health benefits(right...! ), The Birthers (illegitimacy), and the talking heads continue their daily damage in unison (no doubt).

And so I envision some real drama, and in the end, if the manipulative status quo wins, We will be the losers.

I'm writing this because I want to encourage us all to read articles critically, and not to become Headline Reactionaries without noting the structure of any given article, the sources, and/or the possible agenda by the authors behind what we read in the "mainstream" media. There is a difference between what Obama directly states, and inferences made based on what some unarmed someone said he said, or worse yet, those "close to the administration" said.

Lively informative discussions that are fact based is key, but jumping to misleading conclusions without any real evidence is dangerous. I'm almost sure that I don't really have to tell most of us this, but perhaps I'd rather take the chance to be labeled as patronizing because I think it bears repeating.

Collectively as well as individually, we all have a lot at stake in the next 4 years, and they want us to be frightened of Change, because they don't have any other way to combat this administration, and what it just may bring; namely, Change.



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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 07:15 AM
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1. And most importantly, QUIT bringin' those BS negative articles BACK here!!!
And thank you Frenchie for giving me an excuse to say that! I've seen several "Obama is losing popularity because he's the anti-Christ and we're all doomed" thread titles but cant say, "why did you bring that BS here?" because I don't want to give the threads in question any more attention.

It's not that they're JUST negative, they're negative AND IRRATIONAL!!!! WHY do I constantly see long-time members posting articles that they seem to have found at Freeptopia? STOP IT!!!! What does that accomplish?

If you have a criticism of the President, that's fine, this is an open forum and we're all adults. We can debate and discuss. But at least have the BALLS to to formulate your own negative drivel and not just parrot back to us something you read somewhere else.

And if you're posting something because you're "shocked" that the right is saying it and offends you, SERIOUSLY, if it offends you, it will offend us! We DON'T want to see it! lol

So yeah, unfortunately, I can only rec this thread once! Poop!
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 12:41 PM
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2. What I totally understand is the passion that surrounds his presidency,
as there are may reasons for it. The thing is, however, it appears that with just about every single issue, if it doesn't form as one had in mind, then all hell seems to break loose with some.

A perfect example is the health care debate. I believe that it is a good thing to advocate for Single Payer; because that part of the debate is needed in the overall scheme of things, in order to know that elements of all sides are included at the table....so to force that view to have a voice via activism is what was needed. However, I don't believe it is a good thing to determine that single payer is the only acceptable solution, considering that Barack Obama did not run on this solution. I guess I'm trying to say that there is a certain level of inflexibility that appears in some of us that is not a trait of this President. With Bush, we would accept crumbs or anything less than the worse, but with Obama, oftentimes the extreme opposite position is taken; many are not able to accept anything but what they deem to be the answer, period...and the same folks want whatever they want to happen NOW!

I heard a great quote on GPS on CNN today: "If God could make the world in 7 days, why can't Obama remake the world in 7 weeks?"
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Top Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 01:21 PM
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3. If we don't keep each other inform when cannot fight the attacks on the President.
Yes we do see negative post about the President here but at least we are informed and can work together to fight this nonsense. Ignoring what is being sad will not help the administration nor the people. We might as well surrender now to the Bull shit
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 01:44 PM
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6. There is a difference between fighting for what one thinks is right
on a particular issue, while still not aiding the opposition.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 06:27 PM
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13. But often negative articles are dropped off without any commentary...
... and because journalists have to write their opinion as fact, it comes across as the OP is endorsing what is written. I'd post links to some examples of what I have in mind, but I don't want to call anyone out.

The Wall Street Journal, for example, is often a source for these articles. Not exactly the most left-leaning paper in the land, someone might post an article that says, "Obama not doing enough to solve the financial crisis" or "Pundent X says war in Afghanistan will lead the US down a path of destruction." Usually the author in question doesn't support the President and never has. Some seem to have an agenda that they'd love to see him fail or want to highlight any of his perceived missteps.

I just don't see how that accomplishes anything. I am capable of determining whether or not he'd handling the economic situation correctly or whether his foreign policy is correct without reading the right-leaning opinions of some journalist with an agenda.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-16-09 10:33 AM
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19. Well, the Journalists are looking for those they can persuade,
or those that want to be persuaded.

We just have to hope that there aren't enough of them.
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Top Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 01:22 PM
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4. Frenchie that for the post
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 02:49 PM
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8. You are always welcomed!
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 01:33 PM
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5. Rec. #5. I'll be particularly vigilant with respect to "democrats" who repeat Rep. Talking Points.
Part of the war against success of the President's agenda is being fought by members of his own party.

These consist of many in the MSM but also individual purist liberals, single-issue idealists, and those who parrot the distracting propaganda against the President's plans.

I have the greatest respect for you, FrenchieCat, and the many others here who post cogent and well sourced articles filled with the truth.

:toast:
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 02:17 PM
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7. What I see, in respect to members of his own party and their opposition,
Edited on Sun Mar-15-09 02:23 PM by FrenchieCat
and their timidity towards change, is that they lack of confidence in our President, the media and themselves. They are largely afraid that when Pres. Obama does something that is not popular with the Washington Press, they, the Democrats, will be made to pay for it. They have somewhat of a point in that, and so long ago they decided to adopt certain views that allows them to pass by the Status Quo watchdogs unscathed.

On the other hand, President Obama works the status quo and his opposition in a different way from how the standard kiss ass Democrats as well as the pure at heart ideologues do it. He talks about a vague vision without proposing too many specifics, allows for debate, and then ends up with a proposed plan.

It isn't that he doesn't already know pretty much what he believes is the solution, and which way he will go; he does. Rather, in order to satisfy the opposition yearning to be heard, he allows for a process of open exchange to come BEFORE he presents his policy details. This results in an opposition that while fighting to be heard, cannot be busy mounting a campaign against what is to be proposed, since they aren't quite sure what that will be. That's his strategy, and it is a pretty good one, considering what Washington and our media has become.

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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 06:16 PM
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12. Nice description of Obama's strategy. n/t
:dem:

-Laelth
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 06:36 PM
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15. I found it evident......
because in essence, he made his plans clear during the campaign, and what I have found about Barack Obama is that he tends to be quite consistent in his beliefs....going back years on some of those issues.

That's why I watch in amazement those who claim to know that Obama wants to privatize this and privatize that. Obama is not a Privatizing type of fellow...although he'll hear the privatizing folks out, and what he wagers on is them understanding once all is said and done, why privatizing is a terrible idea.

In otherwords, his willingness to listen to opposing views, forces opposing views to listen to him tear down their argument. That's something he is good at, and I believe enjoys the challenge of.
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 03:16 PM
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9. The megaphone of the right wing (a.k.a the media) is in open assault
The AP for one has gone into overdrive the past week.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 03:39 PM
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10. And they have much influence......
and therefore are quite deadly.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 03:41 PM
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11. kick. nt
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Kdillard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 06:32 PM
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14. kick and rec because it is the truth and it will be a long four years
Edited on Sun Mar-15-09 06:33 PM by Kdillard
especially if we enable them.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 08:17 PM
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16. If we enable them, it will be longer than 4 years, because hell will be
next, again. :(
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genna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-16-09 01:58 AM
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17. When people are scared they tend to grab hold to anything
I've heard some arguments that don't make any sense. The emotional response to bad/discouraging media is to say well BHO needs to better answer the questions raised.

I think it's time to do something that unnaturally: be patient and take the time to consider the source and evidence before leaping to some undefined conclusions.

I think the 1000 cuts are coming much faster and more random than we've ever seen them is due to the facts that no Democrat has been this good in beating back the press and Republicans while handling matters of state AND Americans have stopped believing what we're told because the media/Republicans have been caught up in too many plots, lies, and deliberate sabotage.

Frenchie, you have more than a good point. I think you have good intentions. The deal here is that everyone posting these desperate attacks does not have good intentions. The anger out here is so deep at what is gone wrong, the media/Republicans are trying to redirect this palpable force to assign blame and choke out BHO's agenda. If the base is weak while they roll out improved attacks, they will go roll right over Obama.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-16-09 02:09 AM
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18. Yes, I see it this way.
Tomorrow, you will see the media feed the anger from the AIG Bonus scandal, and attempt to blame this administration. Just enough folks need to buy into it, and this will give the Republicans what they need to try to get back into the good graces of the American people while they are pissed.

The sad part is that it might work, because when people get angry, many stop thinking....and if they have enough in the media steering them towards the Obama administration, that is where the anger might lash out at...and we both know that is what the media is there for these days; to demonize the side that doesn't deserve it.

We will have to see how Pres. Obama handles this. What I do know and will continue to say, is no matter how much glee some Democrats might get from seeing Obama take the blame, in a long run, the entire Democratic agenda is what will suffer. Of course, the Republicans here (the trolls) see a glimmer of hope....finally.

I hope we are smart collectively, but we shall have to see.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-16-09 01:17 PM
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20. The Media whores are definitely working for their money......
AIG populism is the new Mantra,
as well as anything else that
might stick.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-16-09 05:07 PM
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21. I regret that I found this too late to rec!!!
This is an excellent post that I will be sending out immediately!!
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