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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-16-09 04:16 PM
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Four economists on "How to Stop AIG's Bonuses"

How to Stop AIG's Bonuses

By William K. Black, Thomas Ferguson, Robert Johnson, and Walker Todd

AIG's decision to pay out at least a hundred and sixty five million dollars in bonuses takes the bank bailout program's abuse of the public trust to a whole new level.

This act simply cannot be allowed to stand. The only question is how to stop it.

"Sanctity of contracts" has for some time been TARP's equivalent of Harry Potter's magic wand, the thing you waved to make difficulties disappear (for financiers, of course; if you are an ordinary worker with a pension contract, by contrast, the magic doesn't work for you). AIG clearly takes the Treasury, the Federal Reserve, and the Obama administration for fools, who can be counted on to roll over yet again at the first whisper of the magic words. There is no reason for agents of the people of the United States, whose money AIG plays with, to be so sheep-like.

Remember that this is a firm that is 79.9% owned by the United States government. It is therefore quite possible to abort this outrage by decisive exercise of public authority. Within existing law, there is more than one way to do it, but a direct solution is readily at hand: Firstly, the US trustees in charge of the firm must immediately instruct the corporate treasurer to make no payments of any bonuses. They also need to order him to issue stop payment orders on any checks that fly out the door at the last minute, as with Merrill Lynch. Then the trustees need to split off the derivatives unit from the rest of the firm and separately incorporate it. This step leaves AIG's other businesses free to operate as usual. If the recipients of the bonuses refuse to waive them, then the derivatives unit should at once be thrown into bankruptcy, terminating all obligations to pay them. Right now, press reports suggest that the firm's top management waited until the last minute to inform the government of what was happening. AIG CEO Edward Liddy, accordingly, should be asked to resign at once, for the sake of public confidence and to send a clear signal that gaming the system is unacceptable. It is also past time for an investigation of the validity of AIG's past accounting and securities disclosures and its executive compensation program by the Office of Thrift Supervision, the Securities and Exchange Commission, and the FBI.

This leaves open the question of how to deal with all other obligations of the derivatives unit, including the notorious credit default swaps. We, like most independent analysts, are mystified by the determination of the Federal Reserve and Treasury to keep paying these off at 100% of their face value. But that's an issue for tomorrow. Today the task is to stop a grotesque abuse before it is too late. The path we outline here would do it, without throwing markets into turmoil. Nothing less than public confidence in the United States government as a whole is now at stake.

William K. Black is Associate Professor of Economics and Law at the University of Missouri - Kansas City. He was a senior regulator during the savings and loan scandal and blew the whistle on prominent politicians, including House Speaker Wright and the five US Senators who became famous as the "Keating Five." He was the lead staffer on the successful reregulation of the S&L industry and directed the investigations that led to convictions in many of the worst S & L frauds.

Thomas Ferguson is professor of political science at the University of Massachusetts, Boston and the author of Golden Rule: The Investment Theory of Party Competition and the Logic of Money-Driven Political Systems (Chicago, 1995).

Robert Johnson was formerly a managing director at Soros Funds Management and chief economist of the Senate Banking Committee.

Walker Todd worked for many years in the Federal Reserve System. He was a legal officer of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York and a legal and research officer at the Cleveland Federal Reserve Bank. He is the author of many studies of bank failure, reform of the Fed's discount window, open market operations, and the Reconstruction Finance Corporation of the 1930s.





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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-16-09 04:21 PM
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1. Interesting ...

I hadn't considered that angle.

I have a lot of respect for Todd and Ferguson especially. If they are signing their name to this, I suspect there's something substantial to it.

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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-16-09 04:22 PM
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2. can't one of these four gentlement replace Geithner?
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Stevepol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-16-09 04:35 PM
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3. Amen
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Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-16-09 05:00 PM
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4. why pay them off at 100%?
No friggin' kidding.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-16-09 05:13 PM
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5. Sounds like a plan to me. nt
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-16-09 06:25 PM
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6. firm's top management waited until the last minute to inform the govt
Wouldn't that be fraud? Failure to perform their fiduciary responsibility?
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-16-09 06:26 PM
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7. How about split off the derivatives unit along with the scumbag execs?
And they have to pay the bonuses from the value of the derivatives.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-16-09 06:29 PM
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8. Frankly, the economists are spot on:
It is also past time for an investigation of the validity of AIG's past accounting and securities disclosures and its executive compensation program by the Office of Thrift Supervision, the Securities and Exchange Commission, and the FBI.



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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-16-09 08:49 PM
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11. Hear, hear! n/t
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-16-09 06:41 PM
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9. Sent to whitehouse.gov - surprised Geithner can't figure this out..I suspect that he can but..
...doesn't WANT to do it.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-16-09 08:51 PM
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12. I agree - Geithner is too close to Wall Street. He has to go!
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 12:19 AM
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20. Oh, bullshit. Geithner CERTAINLY would know this is what to do. It's NOT rocket science.
Shit ... even *I* said to do this. (See post below.) Hell, I even have people in my own family who could do all the legal work and file the restructuring papers. And I don't have all that big of a family, either. This is really elementary ... and ANY corporate droid should know it.

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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 07:28 AM
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22. As I said - I suspect he does know - but just doesn't want to..
...being the Wall-Street loyalist he is.
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-16-09 06:51 PM
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10. Spot on.
Great article.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-16-09 08:53 PM
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13. It's appalling Aig rewarding themselves with taxes from people who have already lost their homes
then they throw a bash in Las vegas?
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-16-09 08:57 PM
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14. Reich said essentially the same thing on Keith's show tonight. Why isn't Obama listening...
Edited on Mon Mar-16-09 09:03 PM by polichick
...or will we hear that he's going in this direction tomorrow??
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 12:24 AM
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21. Hell, even I posted the same thing at 10am this morning. It's not rocket science.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-16-09 09:24 PM
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15. KICK!!
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-16-09 09:40 PM
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16. This proposal makes sense. Will President Obama adopt and implement it?
The public would rally around him. Or he could follow the likely advice of his Treasury Secretary and Federal Reserve head and make a lot of noise but don't take decisive action.
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pa28 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-16-09 11:33 PM
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17. That would be showing some authority.
If the government continues to meekly allow million dollar bonuses subsidized with taxpayer dollars other institutions receiving federal aid will naturally be looking to follow suit using this episode as a precedent. If the government reacts by stopping these excessive bonuses and increasing scrutiny of those responsible for the losses I have a feeling we'll see a deterrent effect.

Yes, most of the money is gone never to return but it's never too late to stop making mistakes.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 12:06 AM
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18. Tell it to the Feds
Their attorneys are the ones who decided that it would be cheaper in the long run to pay out the bonuses than risk being sued.

:shrug:
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 12:08 AM
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19. I'm not an economist but even I said the same thing. It's not rocket science.
Edited on Tue Mar-17-09 12:16 AM by TahitiNut
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=5264110&mesg_id=5264410

:shrug:
Remember that this is a firm that is 79.9% owned by the United States government. It is therefore quite possible to abort this outrage by decisive exercise of public authority. Within existing law, there is more than one way to do it, but a direct solution is readily at hand: Firstly, the US trustees in charge of the firm must immediately instruct the corporate treasurer to make no payments of any bonuses. They also need to order him to issue stop payment orders on any checks that fly out the door at the last minute, as with Merrill Lynch. Then the trustees need to split off the derivatives unit from the rest of the firm and separately incorporate it. This step leaves AIG's other businesses free to operate as usual. If the recipients of the bonuses refuse to waive them, then the derivatives unit should at once be thrown into bankruptcy, terminating all obligations to pay them. Right now, press reports suggest that the firm's top management waited until the last minute to inform the government of what was happening. AIG CEO Edward Liddy, accordingly, should be asked to resign at once, for the sake of public confidence and to send a clear signal that gaming the system is unacceptable. It is also past time for an investigation of the validity of AIG's past accounting and securities disclosures and its executive compensation program by the Office of Thrift Supervision, the Securities and Exchange Commission, and the FBI.


It's NOT that difficult for anyone (like me?) who spent three decades in the "belly of the (multinational corporate) beast" ... including several years as an internal auditor ... to figure out. It's part of the standard 'toolkit' for keeping the walnut shells moving and hiding the pea. It's beyond reason to pretend that Edward Liddy didn't know how to go about doing this. He fucked over the guvmint. No question about it.


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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 07:45 AM
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23. Sen Grassley to AIG Execs Resign or Commit Suicide
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