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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 11:17 AM
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Democrats throw public punches at their president
Sigh. Behind closed doors sounds better and better than this title and the content here.


Democrats throw public punches at their president
By Sam Youngman
Posted: 03/18/09 08:35 PM


Congressional Democrats have not been shy in publicly ripping President Obama during his first two months in office.

The Democrats’ willingness to take on the new leader of their party stands in stark contrast to how GOP lawmakers dealt with President George W. Bush.

While the Bush White House clashed with Capitol Hill Republicans, they mostly did so behind closed doors.

Democrats prefer to have their fights with the White House out in the open.

Many Democrats in Congress, ranging from leadership lawmakers to rank-and-file members, have criticized Obama in major newspapers and on cable TV shows.

House Agriculture Committee Chairman Collin Peterson (D-Minn.) didn’t give the president’s $3.6 billion budget proposal much time to get legs, swiftly calling Obama’s plan to raise revenue by cutting farm subsidies “dead on arrival.”

“This is a very stupid idea,” Peterson said.

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http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/democrats-throw-public-punches-at-their-president-2009-03-18.html
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 11:20 AM
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1. Reid and Bayh are giving fuel to crap like this, though.
It really pisses me off. What the hell kind of time is this to organize a 'Blue Dog' coalition unless you're trying to take attention from OUR president? It's preening and grandstanding when the stage is supposed to be President Obama's.

So, The Hill, like Politico, just eats up this stuff.

Reid's "I don't work for him" still pisses me off.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 11:23 AM
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3. Right.
Reid might consider "working with him," to improve the country.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 11:25 AM
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7. It was the wrong thing to say at the wrong time.
And it projected the image that Dems can't work with each other, let alone run a government.

Reid's got to go.
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Redbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 11:23 AM
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2. See Rogers, Will. (n/t)
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 11:24 AM
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4. Naturally farm state Democrats won't like the idea

They get their campaign contributions from the large agro-businesses Obama wants to cut subsidies for.

And they don't give a shit about the smaller farmers who won't be affected.
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SuperTrouper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 11:24 AM
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5. Chris Dodd also says that it was Obama who asked him to remove provisions that would adversely
affect AIG in the stimulus package. Looks like Dodd is looking to save his hide here :mad:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 11:26 AM
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8. Really! Do you have a link? I thought I heard yesterday
that Obama was throwing Dodd under the bus, but it's the reverse?! I'm so confused! :crazy:
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SuperTrouper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 11:28 AM
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11. just a few minutes ago on MSNBC. Dodd is running for re-election
in 2010 and is trying to keep AIG as far as possible from him...even at the expense of our President.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 11:26 AM
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9. Snowe and Wyden are backing him up. nt
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wroberts189 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 11:25 AM
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6. What is this ...lets back stab like the Clinton days redux?



They want republicans to take over congress again?


Yet the pubs all march in lockstep..bush got everything he wanted.

Reid and Pelosi need to go. They are failing to do their job.

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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 11:27 AM
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10. Sam Nunn all over again. Reid really has to go. nt
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 11:38 AM
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14. IT is obvious that even DU wants the GOP to take over congress again!
That way we can bitch and moan and have nothing happen for the better, just like the last 8 years.
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 12:01 PM
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20. Right, which is why so many are happy Bayh is forming a splinter group
:eyes:
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 11:32 AM
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12. A unified front, especially when our President has only just begun and
HASN'T made any serious mistakes yet, would be nice. When Repubs get into power, they fuck up policy, but they are disciplined and organized. When Dems get into power, they are better at policy but essentially come unglued as a party.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 11:36 AM
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13. They have their cheeleaders in the M$M helping, too...
we need Keith, Rachel etc. to help counter this kind of crap.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 11:40 AM
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15. Well, don't count on Rachel..
she's sure to find something wrong with his policies everyday.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 11:56 AM
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18. And I find her refreshingly honest. Go figure. nt
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Andy823 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 11:45 AM
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16. Follow the money!
I don't care what party a member of congress is from, if they are taking money from the lobbyists that work for big corporations they are going to do whatever it takes to keep the "money" flowing, and to hell with everything else!

Cutting farm subsidies on the big corporations that are buying up farm land is a great idea. It will not affect the smaller farmers. Big corporations have bought up farm land and are getting millions of dollars from taxpayers to "NOT" grow things, such as wheat. Subsidies were not meant to be used the way they have been, to help the wealthy out, but help out those who farm the land themselves and sometimes do need some help to make ends meet. Small farmers don't have the money the big corporations do, and things need to change.

One again it's all about the money, and now that democrats are the majority, many of them are now getting the money that once went to republicans. Paying for votes needs to stop, period! Congress needs to work for the people, not big corporations.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 11:58 AM
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19. Yep... THIS is what Rachel should be going after...
the cause... not the symptom.
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mikekohr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 11:46 AM
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17. Great Leaders Are Often Betrayed By Their Own,
Edited on Thu Mar-19-09 12:04 PM by mikekohr
History if full of such examples, from the betrayal of William Wallace of Scotland to the assassination of Chief Crazy Horse on the Great Plains of America.

Wallace was given over to the English to suffer disembowelment and dismemberment. Crazy Horse was bayoneted in the back by Private William Gentles as his hands were held behind him by his life long friend Little Big Man. Crazy Horse's last words were, "Tell the people it is no use to depend upon me any longer."

In the end it was the betrayal of Crazy Horse and William Wallace by elements from within their own ranks that led to their murders. So it will be with President Obama if he fails. It will be the splintering of his own base, the dissatisfaction of those that clamor for faster more pervasive change, of those that seek to protect their own selfish interests. If President Obama falls, History has written,it will likely be his own people that bring him and his policy of pragmatic reform to an end.

As Hiawatha demonstrated, a bundle of seven arrows could not be broken. But one by one each arrow could be snapped with little effort. If we lose this battle, this is how it will be lost.

In the Spirit of Brotherhood,



International Brotherhood Days
http://www.brotherhooddays.com
mike kohr
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