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Median Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 05:39 PM
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My Gripe About Obama - I Really Don't Want To Focus On Fixing Bush's Fuck-Ups
Edited on Sun Mar-22-09 05:41 PM by Median Democrat
This is just a rant.

:rant:

I voted for Obama because I did want better healthcare, a focus on education, infrastructure, and energy independence. I also wanted some fiscal discpline, and the repeal of the Bush tax cuts. The only specific fix-Bush-fuck-up thing I wanted was to end the Iraq war. I wanted Obama to move forward with the Bush years being nothing but an unpleasant memory.

However, by mid-2008, the Bush recession began to accelerate. Bush's cohorts had been quietly encouraging bank mergers with investment banks in order to try to hide the pile of crap they left the financial system in. However, by doing this, they made the problem of too big to fail even bigger. Despite having Bush's people continually insist that the worst is behind us back in 2007, the whole thing started to un-ravel with a September from hell as credit markets began to freeze up, and banks began to fail.

Of course, everything began to go to hell in the fourth quarter of 2008. The Bush administration could no longer hide the mess it left on so many levels. You can only imagine that Bush was just praying that nothing would blow up until January 2009.

So, instead of a new direction, I am fuckin forced to live in the past, as Obama has to spend all his political capital dealing with Republicans blaming him for Bush's fuck-ups while trying to deal with Bush's fuck-ups. AIG, Citibank, Bear Stearn, Countrywide, Bank of America, General Motors, Ford, Chrystler, General Electric, etc. All of these companies, and the economy were left in tatters as Bush left office. It is all a fuckin mess on top of dealing with foreign policy morass that Bush left.

I wanted to move forward, but each day is a freakin reminder of the Bush administration. Worse, new discoveries are made regarding its horrors on issues like torture.

I never voted for Bush. I did my best to keep him from getting elected, particularly against Kerry. Yet, even with Obama, I now have to watch my government dealing with the clusterfuck that he left behind.

Can't we just pick-up from where Bill Clinton left? This is absolute bullshit, and to read the press still carrying water for the right wing is absolutely amazing.

Hey Hillary! Can I get a fuckin reset button? I won't even bitch if the button is mis-spelled.

:rant:
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 05:43 PM
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1. which is WHY investigations into the criminal bush inc need to start NOW
they CANNOT be allowed to get away with it
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Median Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 05:48 PM
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3. Uggh, I Can Understand The Need, But I Mainly Want To Move On...
I can understand the need to investigate. However, my point is that I would like to move on, not re-live the horror of the Bush administration. This is what is infuriating about the current economic crisis. AIG, for example, was bailed out in September 2008! Yet, it is now Obama's freakin problem. WTF?

My take on investigations is that while it is good to know, the folks who are really at fault are the idiots who voted for Bush. This is a democracy after all. Everyone who voted for Bush should be held accountable for those results.

It is like clingy psycho-ex girlfriend/boyfriend. You thought you broke up. But they just keep on stalking you.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 05:50 PM
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4. no no no no NO
BUSH INC NEEDS TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE - THE AMERICAN PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW THE EXTENT OF THEIR CRIMINIAL ACTIVITY THAT HAS SENT AMERICA OFF A CLIFF - *NOW*
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Median Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 05:55 PM
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7. Fine hold him accountable, but I want my freakin liberal agenda!
Yes, some folks voted for Obama, because they want to see Bush prosecuted. Great. Good for you. I personally tend to blame the idiots who voted for him. Then they voted for him again.

Now that we have a Democratic President, I would like to see us move in a new direction. Not just re-live the horror of the Bush years, which it seems we must do.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 06:15 PM
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10. you can stop repeating yourself
I am done
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Two Americas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 09:31 PM
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18. not possible
It would be nice to move on, I agree. But I don't think it is possible.
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BzaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 01:05 AM
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27. Weird, considering that is exactly what is happening right now.
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 05:51 PM
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5. I totally agree with you... What would it say for "We are a country of laws"
Edited on Sun Mar-22-09 05:51 PM by LakeSamish706
if they were allowed to get away with their crimes? What would the incentive for others to obey the law be? Nope, these guys need to be investigated ASAP.
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Median Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 05:59 PM
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8. Where Is My Healthcare, Education, and Energy Policy?
Instead, I get the prosecute Bush/fix Bush's fuck ups agenda. That is my point. You are going to win. I am starting to realize that the next four years is going to be devoted to figuring out Bush's crimes and dealing with Bush's fuck-ups. But what will get lost?

Will we have a healthcare policy, enery policy, and educational reform? What about social security?

In other words, we will struggle to merely get to the position we were when Bush took office, before he fucked everything up.

There I go. Ranting again.

:rant:
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 06:26 PM
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12. The first thing that needs to happen (and I think most agree) is getting this economy....
to the point where there is going to be a United States next year. We then need to find a way where we can juggle prosecuting Bush and getting the other things that the American citizens need; ie: Health care, energy, and the other things that you mention. But no way in hell can we let the Bush criminals walk free either.
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MarjorieG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 06:27 PM
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13. Agenda with people afraid the more they learn? With the Dems as obstructionist?
Not talking of ConservaDems, dealing with their re-election (which I wish were a little bit less). No, it's the inability for our guys to vote for bankruptcy relief, renogiating mortgages, txing the rich (modestly) to pay for health care, all because of the lobbyist money they've taken.

This economy gives them cover.

The cycle is always Dems bringing us back, while GOP ruins our gains.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 06:03 PM
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9. I'm thinking not quite now, but in short order.
I say once the Media gets crazy out of line, Obama should strike hard, and make them cover the Criminal bullshit of this past administration....by way of his leaking a few choice bits of information. I'm thinking Panetta is working on that as we speak.

I do want it very badly....But timing is everything...me thinks.
I want it to be used as a weapon and
hit as many as they were getting comfy thinking it wasn't gonna happen! :)
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 09:34 PM
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19. Hey, way to not read the OP.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 05:44 PM
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2. The reset button wasn't misspelled..they had used the wrong word...
...that said, sometimes I worry Obama doesn't realize how awful the mess he inherited it.
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Median Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 05:52 PM
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6. Who cares about Obama? This is about me as a liberal. My rant is why do I have to deal with it?
It is like you were dragged to a party by a right wing roommate that you were assigned by housing. He gets shit faced, and acts like a complete ass. You drive him back to the dorm where he proceeds to puke all over the place, and use your laptop as a urinal. He then wakes up, complains about the mess, and has his rich dad buy him a condo nearby, and leaves you with the mess, telling you that you need to do a better job cleaning up, as he heads out the door.

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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 06:20 PM
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11. Oh God! That is a perfect analogy...this description should be an OP! n/t
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 08:50 PM
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17. I would guess Obama knows waaaay more than we do
what an awful mess this country is in.
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 06:29 PM
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14. You can not ignore your way out such disasters...
Edited on Sun Mar-22-09 06:30 PM by and-justice-for-all
If Obama would just stop all middle east occupations, 50% of our problems would dissolve.
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pscot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 07:03 PM
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15. The last captain knocked a hole in the bottom of the boat
Edited on Sun Mar-22-09 07:04 PM by pscot
before we threw him overboard, but fuck that. The new captain promised to get us to the Bahamas, and all he does is mess around under the boat trying to keep the water out. Why can't he forget about all that shit and steer the goddammed boat like he said he would? Is that what you're asking? If you think real hard, maybe the answer will come to you.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 10:47 PM
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23. It's funny because it WON'T come to him.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 07:19 PM
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16. Look at Obama's budget. He's got his Liberal Priorities in order.
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Median Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 10:42 PM
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21. I Like The Budget, It Is Just That Cleaning Up Bush's Mess Is A Job Unto Itself
Ninety percent of the controvery and crap the Obama appears to be dealing with is undoing the mess of the Bush administration whether its the (1) subprime crisis, (2) recession, (3) zombie banks, (4) auto industry, (5) Iraq, (6) Afganistan, or (7) deficit. With Bill Clinton, it seemed like most of his Presidency was playing defense, while getting the U.S. out of the deficit left by Reagan and Bush. Once again, Democrats are left holding the fucking bag. Dealing with Republicans is like living with a large dog in an aparment who is not house broken.

Oh well, I have confidence that Obama will do a good job, but ya just wish the country was not quite so messed up.
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 09:53 PM
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20. No.
I'd rather not hear both names.
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specimenfred1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 10:45 PM
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22. Oh no, you have "unpleasant memories"?
Well get rid of them by letting war criminals go by all means, screw America, our laws, our credibility and our futures so you don't have dirty little things floating around in your beautiful mind.
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Median Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 12:34 AM
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25. Some Folks Like Cleaning Up After Republicans, I Don't, That's Just Me
Edited on Mon Mar-23-09 12:36 AM by Median Democrat
I would like Obama to pursue the agenda I elected him for. Also, what about the voters who voted for that piece of filth President? Shouldn't we hold them accountable? I love you folks say you want to demand accountability, but you give the voters who endored his policies a free pass. This is a democracy. The fact of the matter is that a sizable portion of the electorate endorsed all those things that you complain about. Explain why they should not bear some responsibility?

You have Rush Limbaugh, Grover Norquist, Fox News, who to me strike me as co-conspirators who are every bit as culpable as the Bush administration. Worse, even though Bush is not President, you still have Rush essentially leading a government in exile trying everything to sabatoge the will of the people. Yet, you would let them walk free?

The hypocrisy is amazing.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 10:51 PM
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24. Unfortunately this is what 8 years of Repub rule has done to us. I wish we had Al for 8 years.
Its sad to think where we might be if Gore had been our President. He would not have been perfect but he was a good man and would not have done so much damage to the economy, to our foreign relations, to our psyche. 9/11 might have been avoided or at least handled better. Unfortunately the press attacked Gore viciously and Bush managed to get a close enough election to steal and he did it again in 2004. Its sickening really.
We may not all agree with the directions Obama may take us on a whole host of issues but I really think he knows the lot he was given and that for the next two years at the very least we have to dig out from under the hole. Economy first, budget issues second, and then go after Bush and Cheney. We need to know to heal ourselves.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 12:35 AM
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26. Shorter MD....
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