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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 12:18 PM
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Shouldn't DLC types be mutating more towards the left than the right like EVERYONE ELSE in the USA?
Why are they boldly evolving backwards as the country moves forward?

Republicanism/Conservatism is becoming smaller and denser (in all senses of those words.) Who do the Blue Dog types think they are appealing to? Moderate as opposed to what? I feel like Nancy Reagan when she asked "kinder and gentler than who?" about Bush I.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 12:21 PM
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1. Because of those with Money and Power... the elite?
we know they work for the elite... they sure as hell don't work for average Americans.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 12:23 PM
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2. Right. Since there's very few moderate republicans these blue dogs fill in to serve the RULERS.
The Rulers: Power players within Wall Street and The Pentagon.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 12:25 PM
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3. I've come to the conclusion that politics is nothing more than a hobby
to some in Washington. They're well off so they've got nothing to lose and it's just a game. It seems to be true for these Democrats as well as many, many Republicans. They don't care about us at all.
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droidamus2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 12:49 PM
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4. Right on the nose
You hit the nail right on the head, to most of these guys and gals in Government it is one big game. Influence peddling, propaganda to fool the masses, say one thing do another is all part of it. I think most posters here know but I always try to tell people that when you hear a politician of any party or any pundit say something the first thing you have to look at is 'the game'. Who are they trying to influence, who will benefit, what are they trying to hide, are they settng up a framing to be used in the future to again fool the masses those are the kinds of questions you should ask first and then think about what it is they actually talked about. When you do it that way you quickly realize that most of the stuff they say is mostly just bullshit.
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iamthebandfanman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 12:53 PM
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6. i think that could be said about
a lot of us common folks too.

a lot of newer people on DU as well.

its a game.
the substance is of little consequence so long as they get to put in their two cents and argue until their face turns blue.
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iamthebandfanman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 12:52 PM
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5. Ego, money, and power. n/t
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 12:57 PM
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7. The Repiggies Still Have All That Blackmail Stuff They Got From NSA Spying
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kctim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 12:59 PM
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8. Like everyone else in the USA?
Puleez! The majority of Democrats, and Republicans for that matter, are moderates.
The real question is, shouldn't Progressive types be "mutating" more towards the center-left IF they don't want Repubs back in control?
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iamthebandfanman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 01:03 PM
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9. yeah, you keep telling yourself
there are still moderates in the republican party...

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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 02:11 PM
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18. LMAO! The moderates in the Repig party were forced out or lost to Dems.
They are gone.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 01:16 PM
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10. They owe their soul to Business Interests.
These are the Democrats who helped GWB get his budget through.
This is how the GOP called the GWB Budget Bipartisan.

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kctim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 01:27 PM
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11. They are also the Democrats
who helped Obama become President Obama. Why? Because Obama ran as a centrist. President Obama knew he needed those votes, and that he still needs those votes again in 2012.
Why do you all feel the Democratic party no longer needs those votes?
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 01:28 PM
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12. They're moving to the left, just not as quickly as the rest of the party.
Schumer announced he was in favor of gay marriage this week. Nobody here even noticed.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 01:46 PM
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13. Because contrary to their claims, the DLC was never about "centrism" it was about corporatism
If you put a DLC'er in a time machine and sent them back to the 1960's, even the Barry Goldwater types would cringe at their right wing extremism.
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denem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 01:50 PM
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14. Evidence?
Edited on Wed Mar-25-09 01:53 PM by denem
Explain yourself. Goldwater was all about expanding the military industrial cabal, and repressing civil rights.
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 03:16 PM
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23. NAFTA, MFN for China, Financial Deregulation. QED. nt
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 04:01 PM
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24. Sadly,many are unaware that the Goldwater movement was the vanguard...
of the modern wingnuts.
While I certainly like republicans far more dead, they don't become better just because they are dead.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 01:50 PM
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15. Precisely. (nt)
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denem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 01:57 PM
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17. 1960s "Goldwater types would cringe at their right wing extremism"?
Bull Shit.
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invictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 02:36 PM
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20. Exactly!
nt
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denem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 02:52 PM
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21. Try justifying the worse than Goldwater BS.
Tripe!
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 01:53 PM
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16. They are sell outs to Corporate interests, they don't care which way the "people" lean.
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960 Donating Member (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 02:15 PM
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19. Why, when the ultimate DLC candidate (though no longer card carrying after he found
out he WAS a member) won the White House?
The DLC has now taken over.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 03:08 PM
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22. you don't seriously think "everyone else" in the usa is moving towards the left do you?
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 04:03 PM
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25. Yes, I think most non-investor class Americans are moving to the "left of center" ...
but the M$M and blue dog politicians are hell bent to prevent this open secret from being announced. :shrug:
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 05:07 PM
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27. I think you are misreading the populus
I doubt most people have changed their basic views that much. Social conservatives are still social conservatives. Fiscal conservatives are still mostly fiscal conservatives. There is something of a populist revolt going on, but many of those who are upset with the "investor class" also don't want the government spending a lot of money either.

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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 04:58 PM
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26. That's not what corrupt and arrogant people do
They callously protect their constituents- which are the lobbyists and the corporate interests that fund their campaigns- and hire them on when they finally lose.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 08:12 PM
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28. Corporatist and moderate are not the same thing
Though I think we've generally duped into the belief that moderate means fiscal conservative/socially moderate to liberal because fiscal moderates to liberals that are socially moderate to conservatives are still deemed to be liberals.

I don't know what moderate Republican means anymore. I guess not completely sold out to theocracy?
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