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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 08:09 PM
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Jean Shaheen is full of it. Claire McCaskill is another huge disappointment.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 08:10 PM
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1. What a turd. Her logic is empty.
Rachel is trying to make her see that she's not in unity with the Dem party in Congress.
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Bleacher Creature Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 08:11 PM
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2. Your logic is flawless.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 08:15 PM
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3. I'm disappointed in Mark Begich for buying into this nonsense, too,
although as the first Democratic senator (or congressman) from Alaska since Mike Gravel left office in 1980, I suppose he has his reasons. He'll be hearing from me, though.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 08:16 PM
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4. Thanks. n/t
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MarjorieG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 08:21 PM
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5. I like him, and when on Rachel, he seemed to relish independence.
We know he's the wind power guy. I'm not convinced this isn't somewhat for cover with many of them.

If they're thinking of 1993 as rationale, the GOP aren't the same, and I don't see an ascendant Newt with a Contract on America in the wings.

Passing public portion to healthcare is essential.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 05:05 PM
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22. he already has from me and I'm surprised his inbox didn't melt.
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Top Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 08:24 PM
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6. I'm beginning to think that McCaskill maybe a little disappointed because
she is not part of the administration.
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 04:05 AM
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11. EXACTLY my thought too. While she was campaigning for Obama it was clear to me
that she had big expectations for her own future. I didn't like her then and I don't now.
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Top Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 07:38 PM
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24. I liked her then but now she seems a little angry
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 01:39 AM
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29. But, but...............
Edited on Fri Mar-27-09 01:40 AM by Beacool
She was the one who could no longer deny her children and was in tears by Obama's inspirational speeches to the point that she had to come out and endorse him. She struck me as self serving then and it seems that I was proven correct. Same as that other self serving weasel Richardson.

Well, what goes around comes around......

:shrug:
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genna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 07:34 PM
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23. I accept she liked him when Obama raised her national profile
She was around enough to understand exactly what Obama's agenda was for the country. He didn't change.

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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 08:28 PM
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7. They're just typical Democrats in the Senate. This is why we can't get a progressive agenda
and why the party doesn't stay in power very long
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 05:12 AM
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13. Agreed.
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sampsonblk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 06:16 AM
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14. I think you got it backwards
There is a lesson to be learned here, but I dont thats it. The Dem party has been in power vitrually all the time. Its the GOP that rarely is in power - except for the presidency.

The problem is, as I see it, that we were told we needed "moderates" in order to build our majority. Well that was stupid. Now what majority do we have? Its just on paper.
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genna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 07:46 PM
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26. In power? The Democratic Congress hasn't had a backbone.
Pelosi seems to be running the House whether the Republicans like or not. Reid seems to be coming up against a ConservaDem group bound on going the opposite direction.
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 08:32 PM
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8. Naive.
You're not in Concord anymore, Jean.
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MarjorieG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 08:37 PM
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9. If sincere, they'd do their own town halls, telling truths comparing R&D deficits.
They take the easy way out on important stuf.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 08:49 PM
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10. Women in politics are a diverse lot, just as men are. But we expect more from them. nt
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 05:12 AM
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12. I'm sorry but I don't see this as having anything to do with gender.
I'm just seeing this, and maybe a few other posters, this is about Dems working together to get the agenda through. Not creating divisive factions within the party which could be deemed as obstructionist. This is something that bothers me a great deal. Not everything has to do with gender, especially in politics. This definitely has to do with undermining what the nation needs by petty politics and political posturing to appeal to a group of fools who aren't the majority and aren't needed to get sweeping reformation plans started.
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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 11:04 AM
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21. Please, don't make this about gender.
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Cash_thatswhatiwant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 06:27 AM
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15. huh?
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 07:10 AM
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16. As a New Hampshire voter, I cannot tell you how disappointed
I am in Shaheen. One word came to me during the interview: clueless. I emailed her a couple of days ago and tried to explain the same thing about Dems working and donating at historic levels because we want a Democratic agenda, not Republican-lite. I'm incredibly pissed off.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 07:13 AM
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17. What did Shaheen say?
I did not watch it.
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 07:27 AM
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18. What do you expect? NH is a nutball political environment.
They've got their wacky "No Tax" pledge that politicians are required to take.

The political discussion is set by the fucking Union Leader -- the most reactionary paper outside of the John Birch Society.

The legislature is a collection of human plankton.

The state motto is (despite what the license plates say) "Live Cheap and Die Young."

It's a state with no taxes -- and the roads and the schools to prove it.

Coming up through the ranks in that mess, as Shaheen did, does not prepare you to deal effectively with the real world.

(You don't know what crazy is until you sit through eight hours of a NH town meeting and listen to the wacky comments and arguments from the citizenry. It makes you eager to get home and listen to the sane, sound reasoning on AM talk radio.)
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 07:57 AM
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19. 'Human plankton' going with the WRONG current. nt
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 08:04 AM
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20. McCaskill is a shill
McCaskill shoud not be allowed to have anything to do with health care, Medicare, Medicaide, or Social Security, because her family's wealth comes from her husband, who is in the nursing home 'industry'. She is gliding her own lilly at all times, financially. He hubby 'lent' her 1.3 million dollars to run for Gov. So that is the sort of money that is behind her, and her every action. She is in fact a nursing home millionaire, and she's trying to mess with the programs that pay for, suprise, nursing homes, her family 'business'.
She ought to recuse herself and stand the hell down at once. Her self interests make her unacceptable in the areas that enrich her household.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 07:40 PM
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25. Gack, Both my senators are in the Gang of Sixteen
Ane we worked so hard to turn Colorado Blue!

TRAITORS!

oh well. They were like that all along. No improvement over Salazar, that's for sure!
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beac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 08:04 PM
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27. Feeling the same about Turncoat Warner here in VA.
And I've called/emailed his office on an almost DAILY basis to express my disgust.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 01:34 AM
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28. Did I hear correctly, McCaskill a disappointment?
My, my, my........and to think that I was bashed for criticizing her. How dare I question one of Obama's closest supporters, blah, blah, blah..........

:eyes:


:7
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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 09:21 AM
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30. What was your criticism of McCaskill, besides that she wasn't for Hillary?
Edited on Fri Mar-27-09 09:23 AM by Hieronymus
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 10:18 AM
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31. I thought that she was not sincere.
This subject came up recently on another thread. She struck me as someone who was a bit too devoted. I called her a sycophant because she seemed fake to me. Ditto for Richardson. Every candidate has supporters who are sincere (like Kerry, for example) and some that support them because they know where their bread is buttered. There's support on principle and support for self interest. I think that McCaskill is the latter.

:shrug:
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