Gibbs just said that President Obama 'opposes the legalization of marijuana'

[Dawgs]

That is all.

[BeyondGeography]

1. Good...I voted for Obama, not Obonga

Which would be his new name if you had your way.

[Dawgs]

4. Legalizing marijuana is an issue much bigger than just people getting high.

You should educate yourself before saying stupid shit.

[fascisthunter]

7. awesome reply

[BeyondGeography]

9. Political death

Now that's stupid.

[Dawgs]

15. Fuck politics!! Geez!!

Are we trying to improve this world, or not?

[Grateful for Hope]

60. Yes we are, Dawgs

and, I would like to see marijuana decriminalized. But, in the real world, there is what I would like, and there is what would possibly make things worse than they already are.

The reality is that the political arena exists (unfortunately). And, another unfortunate reality is that this is not going to change anytime soon.

I do not want to see Obama set himself up for a huge political backlash, and, IMO, this is what would happen right now if he pushed for the legalization of marijuana. He is having a hard enough time wading through the economic trouble we are in (again, IMO).

The US is largely puritanical. A sad but, I think, true, description of our country.

[frylock]

50. political expediency..

it's what's for dinner. you can smell the change from here.

[frylock]

51. word up

[nadinbrzezinski]

13. You realize this has medical implications, legal implications

and of course social implications?

We've been at this shit since 1911

It's failed...

Wake up and smell the roses

[BeyondGeography]

20. I'd settle for 47 million uninisured people getting access to health care first

Which is just one of the more important objectives that would be sacrificed on your altar of political perfection should he do the dumb thing and take a pointlessly gutsy stand on weed right now.

[Sebass1271]

23. agree with you

[nadinbrzezinski]

26. News to you... this has public health implications

yep, affects some of those forty seven million

And should be part of the public health discussion

Some of us are capable of multitasking, even if the US political system is not

As to political perfection, bullshit

I just stated the issues with it... you went there, I didn't

On the bright side, the discussion about the war on drugs and where to go from there IS happening at very high policy levels of MULTIPLE governments

I'd say the 1911 prohibition (this is not just the US) is on the wane

Chew on that

[Politicalboi]

34. Which by legalizing pot

Could pay for health care all by itself with taxes. But hey what do we know.

[frylock]

52. you should try getting high..

it may help with your multitasking issue.

[BeyondGeography]

55. That might be funny if I was high

but I somehow doubt it.

[frylock]

56. i was being completely serious

[Runcible Spoon]

58. Could probably afford that if you freed up some of the fucking prisons. eom

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[Sebass1271]

21. : )

although i think something must be done with medical marihuana (sp) i believe it should not be fully legalized... it should however be used for medical purpose cases only... I am not upset at the president though.. this is a hot issue and i respect his stand on this one.

[frylock]

53. care to elaborate on why you believe it shouldn't be made legal?

[MadLabrador]

61. dumbest joke ever

[Uzybone]

2. I guess this is the outrage of the day

I favor legalizing marijuana, but I understand why the President does not. Those who care passionately about the issue need to do what they did in California and Oregon. Obama can't do everything.

[Dawgs]

6. Do you feel the same way about gay marriage?

:shrug:

[Uzybone]

11. Comparing legalizing marijuana to gay marriage is ridiculous

Thats a non starter.


I'd like the people who feel strongly about this issue to do what other did and take action, not sit back and wait for Superman Obama to fix every damn thing. Not everyone who opposes legalizing marijuana is a dumbass.

[Dawgs]

19. I'm not comparing legalizing marijuana to gay marriage as an issue.

You said that the President can't do everything. My question is, 'are you against him fighting for gay marriage?'.

Although, I can explain that people in jail for marijuana possession is just as bad as not being able to get married. It's not all about getting high.

[Uzybone]

33. Thats a better question, and no of course not

I'd like him to fight for gay marriage. But he cant fight for every damn issue by himself. I want a college football tournament, should he fight for that?

[jobycom]

14. Are you equating marriage equality with legalizing the lettuce?

:shrug:

[Dawgs]

22. No. See my response above.

But, legalizing "the lettuce" will free many people that have been jailed for minor marijuana possession. Which seems just about as bad as not being able to get married.

[frylock]

54. facilities are still being raided in cali..

the system ain't working.

[Uzybone]

3. deleted, dupe

[tridim]

5. He also believes it's a state issue

Let's ask Gibbs the question again if/when CA legalizes and starts raking in the tax revenue.

[Dawgs]

10. Gibbs said he opposes the legalization of marijuana.

He didn't say anything about the states.

[tridim]

12. Gibbs speaks for Obama, and Obama believes it is a state issue.

[ChiciB1]

36. Too Bad I Live In Flor-eeee-Duh!! Just Got Back From San Fran...

Sure was an EYE-OPENER! I WILL admit from what I saw that there are many who have "medical cards" may have come by them through the back door.

Was at a really interesting "head shop" and had a long conversation with the guy behind the counter (he has card) and it was apparent to us that he was under the influence, but he also was maintaining and doing his job.

I'm FOR legalization myself, but KNOW it will NEVER happen here! Think about the taxes it would rake in!!! My son-in-law smokes some funny kind of clove smelling cigarettes and he's paying almost $8.00 a pack, seems over inflated to me and as a non-smoker I couldn't IMAGINE paying that kind of price. But I suspect Pot may be cheaper, at least at first.

Personally, growing your own is MUCH better, but MUCH MORE :scared: scary, and ILLEGAL too!

:hippie: :+

[polmaven]

39. He also did not say he opposes

medical marijuana. My own opinion is that he meant that the president opposes recreational use of marijuana, but was not addressing the medical implications.

I did not hear the question to Gibbs or the answer, though, so I could be wrong.

[MarjorieG]

8. But he does agree with reasonable laws and not focusing out of line resources to this.

In NY, we're very aware of bad law and severe penalties for low level, often not guilty and results of unfair plea deals. Girlfriends as lookouts, etc.

[fascisthunter]

17. Dawgs... it will be legalized... just a matter of time

Obama will never say as much because it will be a state to state issue just as Gay Marriage is... in time, it will be legal on a federal level because by them most states will have legalized it. How long till it happens, is anybody's guess. It will take time.

[Renew Deal]

28. I think it will probably happen in the next 50 years.

And yes, I know 50 years is a long time.

[fascisthunter]

31. hey... that'll make me... 86

86 and smoking a joint... actually by then, I should have a vaporizer.

[Dawgs]

32. You're right, but it will be much sooner than 50 years.

The polls show that 50% of America is basically for decriminilization. That's a good start.

[dionysus]

18. ...

[Jennicut]

24. Well I guess the Krugman vs Obama wars are officially over

Now its the "Marijuana Wars!"
Can't wait to see what is next.

I am for legalizing marijuana. But not now. Please, can we get a budget passed pretty pretty please without making this man throw himself to the sharks? Geez.

[EFerrari]

25. Well, that's disappointing. I'm sorry, Dawgs. n/t

[Thrill]

27. This President isn't going to fight losing battles

You think Congress would ever pass this? Get real. Its about as crazy as thinking there is a chance Max Baucus and crew will get behind Single Payer Healthcare

[Dawgs]

29. You're right. Let's not try things that are hard.

:eyes:

[Thrill]

35. Its not about it being hard. Its about reality. IT AIN'T HAPPENING

:eyes:

[Dawgs]

38. Neither is gay marriage. Have you been asking them to give it up?

:wtf:

[Thrill]

41. No. I don't tell them to give it up. And I'm not telling anyone to give up.

I'm just telling you Obama has a bunch of shit he wants to get done. And he's not going to waste time on losing battles. Nor should he.

[Cha]

37. You mean like the economy?

But, carry on with your whining over Obama laughing.

[Dawgs]

40. See #38.

And why are you okay with Obama laughing off a serious issue?

Would it bother you if he laughed off a serious question that you were concerned about? BTW, decriminilizing marijuana would help the economy.

[onehandle]

30. Yep. nt

[nolabels]

42. A judgment call at best, but a bad judgment call none the less

Drugs are for people who either can't stand the pain or reality or both. Pain is way to know we are alive and people looking for an escape from what they feeling are also flunking the test.

And at the end of the rant, anybody thinking Obama would be the panacea or even that answer to the end of anything, welcome to reality :-)

[dionysus]

43. i think you might want to rearrange your priorities just a smidge.

as a sometime connoisseur myself, you really think with all we've got going on he should blow all his political capital on this? are you mad?

[redqueen]

44. Fuck politics!!!

What, just because this is taking place in the political arena, we should worry about politics or political consequences?

WTF man? WTF?

[dionysus]

45. ROFL

:spray::hi:

[Dawgs]

47. Where did I say I want him to do this now?

Making up shit ain't going to make your point.

[dionysus]

48. you've been complaining about this all day, stop being obtuse.

[PM7nj]

46. I'm shocked!

I can't believe it.

[ShortnFiery]

49. We'll work on him. At least we may be able to convince him to decriminalize the possession

of small amounts of marijuana?

Yes. We. Can. :evilgrin:

[smellycats99]

57. hmmm look at this

hmmmmm

http://trevortitman.com/blog/2009/03/bong-hits-4-ashcroft/

[Occam Bandage]

59. Obviously. nt

[cbc5g]

62. Yeah but i'm willing to bet, based on todays news that he is giving encouragement to sen. webbs bill

to reform the prison system and drug laws that he would sign a bill that decriminalizes.