I am not satisfied with the outcome of the Ashley Todd case (the "B" Girl)

[bluestateguy]

She could have caused a race riot. She should be in jail. And I don't want her being allowed to vote in 2012.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashley_Todd

Todd was charged with filing a false police report, a misdemeanor charge with a maximum jail sentence of two years. While jailed, Todd underwent a court-ordered psychiatric examination and was deemed to be competent to stand trial, but in need of further counseling. On October 30, she agreed to a deal in which she was released from jail, but must undergo psychiatric counseling as condition of her release. Upon her formal arraignment in January, Todd would enter a probation program for first-time offenders, after which her record would be expunged if there had been no further offenses. Continued mental health counseling would also be a condition of the probation period. The deal did not require Todd to enter a plea.<11><12><13>

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[Jennicut]

1. She is crazy and needs psychiatric help not jail.

I have a degree in psych. Jail would make her crazier and then in two years she would be out doing worse stuff. I have worked with people with many different kinds of mental problems.

[bluestateguy]

4. No, she needs jail.

Pulling that kind of shit has to have consequences.

Not Twinkie Defense excuses.

[AllentownJake]

10. I'm sorry who the fuck died over her actions?

She's obviously in need of some severe mental health treatment.

[Raineyb]

19. Agreed. She could have gotten someone killed. n/t

[cali]

26. bullshit. and your attitude about people with mental illnesses is anything

but progressive.

[Raineyb]

29. The bending over backwards to excuse this fuckwit is nauseating

:puke:

Odd how when the races are reversed we don't see this type of thing.

Regards

[cali]

38. No one is excusing it. stop throwing the bullshit.

She's mentally ill. That's the bottom line.

[Raineyb]

47. You are excusing it.

Otherwise you wouldn't keep claiming she's mentally ill. Being a stupid racist bitch is not a fucking mental illness. You do a disservice to actual mental illness. There isn't a goddamn thing wrong with her. Like I said the excuse making is nauseating.
:puke:

[Number23]

54. Seems like she's more stupid than mentally ill.

Although there is the apparent streak of "insanity" there.

But even crazy white people who spend time DELIBERATELY making up crimes so that they can be blamed on black people deserve some jail time, if only for the amount of resources that were taken so that the police could focus on this foolishness.

They should ask those two black, female cops who held the press conference after it was deduced that everything was a hoax if they think she committed a crime. I still remember the barely-contained anger of those two women when they thought about what that woman had done and the amount of time, money and manpower they had to spend on following a hoax.

[bluestateguy]

45. Eh, whatever

I'm a little old fashioned: a crime is a crime is a crime, and when you commit it, you should be held accountable, not given therapy because you weren't given enough milk as child.

[Raineyb]

48. Apparently, some crimes are more criminal than others.

I would even go so far to say it depends on who commits it.

Regards

[BlooInBloo]

2. (shrug) It's the expected result with white folks running things.

[Canuckistanian]

3. What would you like to see? The woman was mentally unbalanced.

The real shame here is that the media actually took her seriously.

[bluestateguy]

5. Jail.

That's what I'd like to see.

[jberryhill]

7. Well, you aren't going to see that /nt

[depakid]

8. Spoken like a true American

Must.Have.Pound.of.Flesh.

[Jennicut]

13. Exactly. Putting her in jail solves nothing.

More vengeance, more people in jail for non violent crimes! Yay!
Prisons are overcrowded anyways. Let the nutter get some help and maybe turn into a productive member of society.
I worked with teens who had deep mental issues ranging from peeing in a corner to wanting to strangle themselves in the middle of the night with their bedsheets to carving things into their flesh for no apparent reason. So when someone carves/draws a backwards B on their face, its obvious they are not mentally all together there.

[Raineyb]

28. Let me put it this way

If the races were reversed how much talk of mental help and avoidance of prison would we hear?

Now. Why the fuck isn't she in prison?

Regards

[Danger Mouse]

39. Two wrongs = Right?

[Raineyb]

49. You didn't answer my question.

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[Joe the Liberal]

6. She's like the majority of the GOP base.........

Completely fucking insane!

and that is scary!

[stillcool]

9. Hopefully she can be de-programmed..

[AllentownJake]

11. I'm satisfied

She was exposed as a fraud, she'll have this in her past for the rest of her life, and she's being required to get the mental health treatment she obviously needs.

Nothing she did, did any permanent harm to anyone other than herself. Why the hell should she be incarcerated?

[Raineyb]

53. Because she filed a false police report and damn near endangered any black man

who had the misfortune of being in the neighborhood. Unless you don't think that the potential of being falsely accused and arrested as a black man in this country constitutes a harm.

Regards

[Cirque du So-What]

12. Everybody demands their pound of flesh

Ahh...what's the use?

[cooolandrew]

14. As bad as what she did is I think she does have issues to do that to herself.>

Yeah there was an underhand side to her thinking but the cutting is more a sign of a lot deeper problems. What really should come from this is probably more college on campus psychiatric advisors(the kind in it for the vocation than pay) for them that need it.What I am more suggesting is stop the problem at the source, half the massacres we see out there are people who didn't get help soon enough. Although I fully understand the need for further punishment in this incident.

[firedupdem]

15. While I'm not one to want folks jailed....I'm also the mother of

two young black men and I have a black husband. I get sick of shit like this. Yell a black guy did something to a white girl and the police will come out of the woodwork harassing innocent people. I freak every time my 20yr old gets pulled over for nothing, and I consider he might reach for his cell phone and get blown away. This is serious shit and I think she got off easily.

Fuck her and everything about her. She wasn't so mentally unstable as to not know how to concoct a story and make sure the perpetrator of the crime was black.

[Vektor]

16. Thank you.

Well said, and damn right.


:thumbsup:

[cooolandrew]

17. Well hopefully this will be one end result of President Obama fewer wrongful arrests & more police>

regulation for ethical conduct.

[Raineyb]

30. Why would you think that?

We've got people who dislike Obama because he's black. You think the rest of us are going to catch a break with these types?

Regards

[Raineyb]

20. Which is exactly why I wanted to see her ass in jail.

I'm tired of white people thinking they can falsely blame black people for shit and get away with it.

It would help if someone went to jail for this crap.

It would be even more helpful if the cops weren't so willing to believe the worst about black people but that may be asking too much.

Unfortunately, apparently expecting someone to be made an example of in cases like this is asking too much as well.

:shrug:

And some people wonder why some of us think this society doesn't value us.

Regards

[Number23]

55. DAMN. STRAIGHT.

She wasn't so mentally unstable as to not know how to concoct a story and make sure the perpetrator of the crime was black.

:applause: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :applause:

[spag68]

18. Ashley Todd

If she was sentenced to 2 years, she would go to prison, not jail. There is a tremendous difference, and IMHO only those who have never been to jail or prison would want this unstable girl in either. What is wrong with you people, no non-violent offender should be in prisoned for a first offense, and maybe not even a second.

[Raineyb]

21. Non violent.

I suspect that the first black man who crossed paths with the police would not have had a non-violent encounter.

This shit still pisses me off months later.

My feelings for this fuckwit can be easily summed up in three words.

Fuck. That. Bitch.

Regards

[firedupdem]

22. Exactly! That's all I could think about. Had she not carved her

B backwards and actually pointed out somebody on the street. They would have been arrested and sent off to jail and she would have been a media darling.

[onenote]

23. "She could have caused a race riot."

But she didn't. We don't punish speeders who don't cause accidents that kill people the same as speeders who do cause such accidents. She needs help, not jail. Apparently revenge is a progressive attitude for some here.

[Raineyb]

24. Guess it wasn't your behind on the line was it?

Nice to know the outrage should be saved when it endangers certain folks.

Regards

[Danger Mouse]

37. Accusations of racism? Ah, stay classy!

:hi:

[Raineyb]

52. I didn't call him a racist. I merely said that his ass wasn't on the line so he doesn't give a damn...

Clearly not the same thing. But I damn sure am calling that stupid fuckwit a racist. What the fuck do you call it when a white woman blames a black man for an imaginary crime. Knowing damn well that the police are more likely to go after black people in this country. Remember Susan Smith much? How about Charles Stuart? Now would you like to tell me how not dangerous her bullshit accusations were?

And since you've gone there, I might as well say it. I don't think that if this B bitch was black that we'd hear about all her "mental illness" and why she needs treatment instead of prison. Somehow black victims or alleged perpetrators don't garner nearly as much sympathy. Am I not supposed to infer that my black ass isn't as valued by how society treats me and people who look like me?

Do you really think that we're that fucking stupid? Do you? Think about that. Or you can go back to your nauseating excuse making for a stupid racist bitch who could've gotten an innocent man arrested, jailed, or worse. As the daughter of a black man, the niece of two black men, the cousin of numerous black men and the aunt of a black boy in this country I know exactly what kind of danger that bitch put black men into that night. And there isn't a goddamn thing on this planet that you or anyone else can say that will make her getting away with this shit okay.

Dismissing the danger posed to a segment of the populace? Real classy.

Regards

[davidpdx]

25. If she didn't get it, she should have to serve a large amount

of community service. I agree the probation and treatment is needed, but there should be something in terms of punishment.

[lunatica]

27. Could haves isn't a reason for throwing disturbed people in jail

They should be under psychiatric help.

When I didn't see a pedestrian walking across the street and almost hit him I could have killed him. So I should go to jail as if I had killed him?

[Raineyb]

32. This is hardly the same as a near miss.

This is a deliberate attempt to do harm to black men because it's so easy to blame them for shit and sic the cops on them. Especially when a white woman makes the claim. The near miss would be accidental in your scenario. These are NOT the same situations at all.

Regards

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

31. I'd have liked to see her wind up in prison, but in a bigger scheme...

I'd wish her case hadn't just dropped off the radar.

People blaming Obama for stupid shit that he didn't do are just like Ashley Todd, and there's plenty of them on DU.

[JayMusgrove]

33. And while you're at it, let's put all stupid people, all crazy people and all poor

people in jail.

That's what we should do. Put them all in jail because they all COULD do something where someone actually is hurt.


:tinfoilhat: :sarcasm:

[Danger Mouse]

34. She was mentally ill and manipulated by scumbag rethug media people.

I feel bad for her, reprehensible as her actions were. I'm glad she's not going to go to prison for what happened - I'm sick of repukes using people like her for their patsies.
Anyway, I see some here thirst for vengeance rather than justice.

[Raineyb]

35. Yeah she was so mentally ill that she knew that blaming a black

man was an easy out.

Her ass belongs in prison.

Regards

[Danger Mouse]

36. Why?

[firedupdem]

40. Because had her B not been backwards she would have pointed

out some innocent black guy who would have been sent to jail for nothing. That's why. She wasn't so mentally ill as to not know what to do and who to pin it on. I'm not buying that shit...but then again, I'm the mother of young black men and I don't take too kindly to them being an easy out for any crime committed. Fuck that girl...I feel nothing for her. Thank God she was caught. How many others aren't caught? A human going to jail for a made up crime isn't the same as a speeding ticket to me. I know you didn't make that analogy, but others have.

[CBR]

41. I agree firedupdem... nt

[Lilyeye]

42. Your right. It has certainly happened MANY times in the past.

[Raineyb]

50. See post #40. There's no need to reiterate what has already been perfectly said.

Regards

[mvd]

43. In this country, there's too much prison and not enough help

But since she knew what she was doing, a short time in jail wouldn't be so extreme considering the max. is 2 years.

[Freddie Stubbs]

44. Expunged criminal record, but her legacy will still be available on the Internet

[Raineyb]

56. Considering how little regard people on this board have for the consequences of what she did

That's just not good enough.

I'm sure the next stupid racist fuckwit who decides to blame a phantom black man will think twice about making up a story because their legacy on the internet will make them reconsider.

Seriously, what the hell kind of nonsense is that?

[Occam Bandage]

46. Treatment and not imprisonment? God, it's almost humane.

[Raineyb]

51. The one time when we should lock someone's ass up we don't.

And some wonder why the justice system is looked at as suspect.

Regards