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denem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-01-09 09:20 PM Original message |
Hillary's health care plan adopted by congressional Dems |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-01-09 09:26 PM Response to Original message |
1. Are we SURE the Clintons didnt win last November? |
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denem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-01-09 09:31 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. I'm sure Hillary consulted widely when formulating her policy. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-01-09 09:42 PM Response to Reply #3 |
12. Well, that's the way Presidential primaries go, I suppose. |
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denem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-01-09 10:03 PM Response to Reply #12 |
20. Obama will veto it: Hey that's my SoS' plan. Not fair! |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-01-09 09:36 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Her health-care plan is further left than the one Obama proposed. |
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denem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-01-09 09:39 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Yes. Obama adopted a small target approach. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-01-09 09:49 PM Response to Reply #1 |
16. ooh! I'll start a rumor at Free Republic |
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denem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-01-09 09:54 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. And Bill agreed to keep it secret, so that Hillary became President |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-01-09 09:28 PM Response to Original message |
2. I hope the plan we end up wtih competes the HELL out of the |
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denem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-01-09 09:32 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. That's the DEVIL in the details. |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-02-09 01:29 AM Response to Reply #4 |
35. Doctor Dean is one of the few people in this country I would trust on this issue. |
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Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-01-09 09:34 PM Response to Original message |
5. I look forward to weeks of infighting! |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-01-09 09:39 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. This is a fight worth having. Health care reform is an enormously important issue |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-02-09 01:07 AM Response to Reply #7 |
32. I am with you, and I am not going to quit until we have it. |
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mucifer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-01-09 09:39 PM Response to Original message |
9. The reason Krugman endorsed Hillary was that her health care plan was more inclusive |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-01-09 09:45 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. Yeah, he saw the economics and went with the better plan. |
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biopowertoday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-02-09 12:52 AM Response to Reply #15 |
30. So am I but single payer needs a fair hearing and discussion also. |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-02-09 12:57 AM Response to Reply #30 |
31. I agree. Single payer is the best plan by far and it hasn't gotten a fair discussion. |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-01-09 11:21 PM Response to Reply #9 |
24. Mandates. It was about mandates. |
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biopowertoday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-02-09 12:50 AM Response to Reply #24 |
29. When ALL are in the poll, it helps keep costs down. Smart move. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-02-09 01:14 AM Response to Reply #29 |
34. That is not true unless you cut private insurance out of it |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-02-09 10:20 AM Response to Reply #34 |
39. Agreed. And I think healthcare should be not for profit. |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-01-09 09:40 PM Response to Original message |
10. It was just mentioned on Frontline last night |
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liskddksil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-01-09 09:42 PM Response to Original message |
11. It was also the plan Edwards put out. nt |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-01-09 09:43 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. To be fair, Edwards did a lot of putting out. nt |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-01-09 09:45 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. !!! |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-01-09 09:51 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. Oooh! |
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liskddksil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-01-09 09:55 PM Response to Reply #13 |
19. Apart from Kucinich, Edwards was the first to detail a completely universal healthcare plan |
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denem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-01-09 10:14 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. Apart from the framing, Hillary and Edwards had the same plan. |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-02-09 12:11 AM Response to Reply #22 |
27. Edwards made it a centerpiece of his campaign. |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-02-09 08:25 AM Response to Reply #19 |
36. Actually he wasn't - John Kerry, who had a near universal health care plan in 2004 |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-02-09 11:56 AM Response to Reply #36 |
48. Hell, even Nixon proposed a universal health care plan. Edwards was no pioneer. |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-01-09 10:59 PM Response to Reply #13 |
23. Are we still talking about healthcare? |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-01-09 10:10 PM Response to Original message |
21. As many as 20% of motorists are uninsured |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-01-09 11:38 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. The insurance companies should be taken entirely out of the loop. |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-02-09 08:27 AM Response to Reply #21 |
37. Exactly (nt) |
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Sebastian Doyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-01-09 11:50 PM Response to Original message |
26. Mandatory corporate healthcare?? OH HELL YEAH!! |
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Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-02-09 12:41 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Dude, when I saw your avatar today, I damn near snarfed my juice. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-02-09 01:13 AM Response to Original message |
33. Fuck subsidizing insurance companies by forcing people to buy their products |
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area51 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-02-09 09:34 AM Response to Original message |
38. kick (n/t) |
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Raffi Ella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-02-09 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
40. I love this team. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-02-09 10:55 AM Response to Original message |
41. I see no mention of "mandates" in the news article you linked to. Where is it? |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-02-09 11:01 AM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Creative editing, I guess. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-02-09 11:22 AM Response to Reply #42 |
44. The OP is misleading. Nowhere in the article do they say it's "Hillary's healthcare plan" either. |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-02-09 11:25 AM Response to Reply #44 |
45. me thinks |
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Vattel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-02-09 11:14 AM Response to Reply #41 |
43. "all Democrats, agree that everyone must carry insurance" nt |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-02-09 11:28 AM Response to Reply #43 |
46. That's not a mandate. On Pres. Obama's 08 campaign website, it says the same thing.... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-02-09 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
47. We need a single payer option. |
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