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Top Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 05:10 PM
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Chuck Todd just said on Hardball that our President runs the risk of appearing cocky
Chuck fucking Todd is soooooo jealous of President Obama that he's true colors are showing.
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aquamarina Donating Member (772 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 05:13 PM
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1. And comments like this is exactly why I no longer watch cable or network news.
Where is the "newsworthiness" in stupid commentary like this?
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Top Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 05:19 PM
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9. I know I am sick of the MSM and there bullshit
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 05:20 PM
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11. Concur--if I wanted to hear uninformed assholes bloviate, I can find that at the barber shop or
the bench in front of town hall.

And speaking of "cocky"--who told that asswipe that the facial hair he sports looks good?

:rofl:
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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 05:25 PM
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16. He needs that goatee. Otherwise his face would look as young and naive as his BS commentary. n/t
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 05:37 PM
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25. I think you're on to something. nt
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DangerousRhythm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 05:13 PM
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2. Haha, it certainly seems that way!
He never has a nice word to say and he always looks so... I don't know, bored maybe? Ugh.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 05:13 PM
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3. His questions reveal his Level....not ready for Prime Time....a wannabe for sure
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alsame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 05:14 PM
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4. Well, Chuck already
appears stupid. All day he's been talking about how the President is still in 'campaign mode'.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 05:14 PM
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5. IMO, Chuck Todd is sort of "an open JOKE" not unlike Joe Scarborough, Jim Cramer and Ed Henry.
I don't sweat his half baked commentary but sincere thanks for keeping us informed of these self-absorbed pseudo-journalists. :hi:
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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 05:14 PM
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6. In the words of the king of cocky, "bring it on" and "mission accomplished".
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 05:17 PM
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7. He's pissed because he wasn't chosen during any of the G20 press conferences.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 05:45 PM
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27. Yeah, and seeks to ooze his
venom immediately.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 05:52 PM
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31. He even wrote about this on his First Read blog over at MSNBC News.
What a fool.


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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 05:53 PM
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32. A fool that needs to be held
accountable.

Chuck Todd chuck.todd@nbcuni.com
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 06:30 PM
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42. Thanks for his email. Everyone on this thread should also respond on his blog (link).
Edited on Fri Apr-03-09 06:32 PM by ClarkUSA
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 07:08 PM
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47. Thanks for
that link, Clark.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 08:17 PM
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57. So he could ask another stupid f"n question
"Mr. President does the recession keep you busy?"

Yes Chuck. NEXT!
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JitterbugPerfume Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 05:18 PM
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8. I have never liked Chuck Todd
he is the one who is cocky
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 05:58 PM
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33. Yep! He is acting cocky considering his resume is slim.
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 05:19 PM
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10. Not enough bowing and scraping from the colored guy....
Edited on Fri Apr-03-09 05:21 PM by bliss_eternal
...for him, apparently.

Quick someone get the memo to the President to throw in stuff like,"Yes, sir boss..." when he talks to the white dudes, so they'll feel better about themselves.

:eyes:

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HopeOverFear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 05:27 PM
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18. Alright now
you're speaking too much truth right there, you'd better watch it... :rofl:
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 05:35 PM
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24. lol.
:hi:

Comments like that are rather transparent, to me at least.
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 09:19 PM
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64. lol
Transparent indeed! Firefox comes to mind.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 05:21 PM
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12. Yeah-he's "walking a fine line between confidence and cockiness"
or something close to that. And he kept talking about how it looks like Obama's in "campaign mode." No-it's called being a REAL president!
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Top Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 05:30 PM
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21. Thanks you... I'm sorry to say Todd thought Bush was a real Pres
Chuck Todd is a freakin idiot
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Rashel Donating Member (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 05:23 PM
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13. If there's anyone cocky (and creepy) it's Chuck Todd
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watrwefitinfor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 05:24 PM
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14. Here, Chuckie. This is a president appearing Cocky.
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Top Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 05:31 PM
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22. hahaha
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 06:00 PM
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34. How about the times that Bush acted like the fools jester?
Edited on Fri Apr-03-09 06:02 PM by LiberalFighter
You know... Bush and Todd would both look good with the court jester's costume. I bet all the G20 members would appreciate it too.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 05:24 PM
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15. Check it out. I had a thread about him this morning
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 05:26 PM
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17. After eight years of a fake cowboy swagger, they think Obama is anywhere near cocky?
I guess competence equals cockiness in their narrow minds.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 05:28 PM
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19. Why would he be jealous?
He might be a little boy in awe of his trip with the varsity.

In fact, that's exactly how he comes off to me ... but jealous?

Why?
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ladym55 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 05:28 PM
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20. And Chuck Todd runs the risk of looking like an idiot
Oh, wait! Too late!
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 05:34 PM
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23. "Chuck, is it possible that some people might think PO reminds them of the nerd
who won the Science Fair in sixth grade? That's who he reminds me of. That kid with his with homemade seismograph and spewing volcano that totally eclipsed your (my)bean spout display? I mean, it's nice to be smart and all, but is that really the image America wants to project in this time of global insecurity? Would it be better to have a dumb guy who's not afraid to throw a rock? What do you think, Pat?"

This kind of drivel is what passes for "commentary".
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 05:38 PM
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26. Cocky chuckie said
WHAT!?

Chuck Todd chuck.todd@nbcuni.com
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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 05:48 PM
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28. I am beginning to think
that the only news worth watching is the local news. Local news is just that -- news.

I am sick of sensationalism. And, I hate to say it, but even Keith and Rachel are a little guilty of this. Cable news is entertainment, not news.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 06:18 PM
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39. I feel the same way anymore and think MSNBC is the Liberal version of Fox News.
There is no real back and forth, no in depth discussion of issues- just gushing and pandering to whom they like. I remember watching Rachael Maddow- who use to be hard hitting- go bonkers over Hillary Clinton's coat lining. Now, it was a nice coat and all, but really- is that news? The only programs that are hard hitting on MSNBC any more are the documentary series they run.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 05:50 PM
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29. It may not of been an appropriate thing to say, but why would Todd be jealous of Obama.
I don't think Todd wants to be President.
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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 05:51 PM
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30. Not jealous. But upset that he didn't get his moment in the sun at the pressers.
Wonder if he will further down the road after his ridiculous and unfounded "commentary."
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Top Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 06:00 PM
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35. Todd is jealous because the Preident is smarter then he will ever be.
No one said that Todd wanted to be President....
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 06:12 PM
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38. Based on what?
Look, you didn't like what he said,I didn't either, but I doubt he said it because he is jealous because Obama is smarter than him. I don't know that for a fact and I would assume you don't either.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 06:30 PM
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43. I think he's clearly if not jealous, envious of Obama
Its too much of a pattern with his comments.

You don't have to want to be President, to be envious of someone because of their popularity, smarts, or leadership
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Top Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 07:11 PM
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49. You have your opinion and so do I....
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madaboutharry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 06:03 PM
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36. I actually have thought that
Chuck Todd seem to have this weird envy of President Obama.

It is strange to get that vibe from a reporter or journalist.
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Top Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 07:12 PM
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52. Yes I agree... Some of the things Chuckie says about the President makes you wonder.
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angee_is_mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 11:47 PM
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69. Generational Haterade
I've noticed this in men who are in Obama's age group or a little younger. I'm assuming that chucky ducky is in his mid 30s. Just review the stories of Obama by men in their mid 30s-40s. They are hard core.

I've even noticed it in my friends and acquaintances who are in Obama's age group.
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 06:05 PM
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37. I saw that!
It sounded like a very dickish thing to say...Mike Barnicle just commented that Obama seemed so comfortable on the world stage, and then Todd was like "Well, he runs the risk of appearing COCKY!" Oh joy. The return of the "he's so arrogant" meme.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 06:32 PM
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44. He won't make a mistake. Its driving them nuts.
So they are now on this fake rift with Sarkozy and Obama.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 06:26 PM
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40. What a total TODD.
.
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elise11 Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 06:28 PM
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41. when Todd speaks...
I turn off the TV. The man is clueless.
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 06:34 PM
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45. "Cocky"? I call it Confidence...
Obama has the energy, the drive and the determination to turn 8 years of bullshit around. He can not go around all "hum drum" with his head down, he also has to put up with the obstructionist shit.

Obama is like a rock, only tougher.

Shrub was a cock prick.
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guy Donating Member (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 06:49 PM
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46. Chuck probably feels like I did after 2004
crushed and defeated.
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Cass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 07:08 PM
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48. He is such a tool. nt
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 07:11 PM
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50. "You're either with us or against us."
THAT'S cocky. I don't recall anyone in the MSM calling Bush "cocky" when he said that.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 07:11 PM
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51. CHUCK TOD SI A RITE WIN TOOOL
DON WATCH
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 07:13 PM
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53. So who in the f*ck does Chuck Todd think he is? Did somebody elect him or something?
Cocky Chuck is getting on my last damn nerves.
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Top Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 09:07 PM
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61. I'm right there with yeah
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 07:13 PM
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54. Ummm, Chuck - I believe it's YOU that appears cocky.
Obama appears humble - yet confident.


Do I need to send you a dictionary so you can brush up on your adjectives?
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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 08:13 PM
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55.  From Day 1... I do not trust or like Chuck Todd....sorry
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GoCubsGo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 08:15 PM
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56. Whatever you say, Schmuck.
Twit.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 08:23 PM
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 08:41 PM
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59. Self-deleted
Edited on Fri Apr-03-09 08:54 PM by Raine
cause I misread. :blush:
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Undercurrent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 09:01 PM
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60.  Pie-thetic!

This is a retread of a msm meme from the primaries, AND reused in the general. Now they're trying to run the same stupid play, and pretending they got somethin'.

They got nothin'.


:rofl:
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Harry Monroe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 09:07 PM
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62. Chuck Todd is an asshole!
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 09:09 PM
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63. Todd doesn't matter much in the long run. I think Obama runs a very
high risk of appearing intelligent, decent, and capable.


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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 10:01 PM
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65. that's because he cannot say "uppity"
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 10:04 PM
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66. Fuck Off Todd. That black man is your president. I know you
wanted to say uppity but you couldn't you ass!
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InAbLuEsTaTe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 06:56 AM
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71. Agreed - Chuckie might as well put his white hood on and cover that ugly mug of his.
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stevenleser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 10:50 PM
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67. To Whom? The Europeans love him, and so do we.
Chuckie, it ain't St. Patties day, why are you so green?
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 11:38 PM
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68. Dear Chuck Todd,
Edited on Fri Apr-03-09 11:39 PM by FrenchieCat
Apart from insinuating that the President is bordering on cocky, earlier today when asked about the big news that France is taking a Gitmo Prisoner, you responded, "its nice, but its just one prisoner, I wouldn't read too much into it".

Please tell me, why are reporters so arrogant to believe that we are looking for their opinions about our news? We just want the news reporting, not to always know what you think! I didn't hire you, Chuck Todd; some guy in some suit up in some office did. I just happen to be hard up for news, because good reporting is so hard to find, and sometimes I give up, get desperate and watch MSNBC.

But please, why do you believe that you are anyone to judge and then comment to thousands of viewers about something as subjective as how the President of the United States is acting?

I didn't hear reporter calling Bush anything other than Mr. President for at least first 6 years!

Perhaps the problem is not our President's confidence; maybe it is our reporters who appear to lack respect as well as a true understanding as to their own place in the larger scheme of things.

Political director of some news station doesn't make you king of who's what, and to be honest, I'm getting tired of the folks who barely know what AIG actually does attempting to school me on what I see with my own eyes.

You guys need to stop being so obvious. It's actually very transparent and pathetic.
But keep treating us like we are stupid. Go ahead.

Respectfully,
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Top Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 01:07 PM
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73. Well said FrenchieCat....
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 05:55 AM
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70. Cocky?? That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
If anything, I'd call him humble.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 11:19 AM
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72. He Looked Tired or Drunk
yesterday when he was rambling this ridiculous summation, that no doubt came from the now journalistic practice of "pulled right out of his ass" - Worse, he wouldn't stop...which made it sound even more absurd.

That's certainly no excuse for this stupidity.
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