I don't know how many times I have to tell this to you people.

[denem]

A DU post from 5/9/08. Ah the primaries. We were told, (by both sides), so many things were impossible. Today, the very improbable is still very possible, if we plan, work, and get the word out. Like universal health care, tomorrow begins today. (Edited to clarify message).

Obama is not going to win Virginia, North Carolina or Indiana unless he wins the popular vote by 10% or more.

No Democratic candidate has won Virginia since LBJ's blowout in 1964. There is not enough growth in Northern Virginia to turn VA Democratic anytime soon. A Blue Dog Democrat is the only type of Democrat that has any remote chance of turning this state blue.

No Democratic candidate has won North Carolina since Jimmy Carter in 1976. Kerry lost the state by 12 points despite having the native son on the ballot. Democrats already get 90% of the significant black population in the state. To win the state, you need to tap into the rural parts of the state that are typically controlled by the Republicans. Neither Democratic candidate will do that.

Indiana? Are you joking? Tell me why a state that hasn't went Democratic for decades will go Democratic? How will a state that went for Bush by 20 points go Democratic?

There is no chance in hell of Obama winning South Carolina and Texas. They are solid Democratic states, and have been for a while. The big black populations in these states already vote overwhelming Democratic. To win Texas, you need to tap into the large white population in the state that is almost entirely controlled by the Republicans. In addition, you need to get Latinos out to vote and get them to overwhelming vote Democratic. Not likely considering Obama's lack of success with Latinos and McCain's great support with Latinos.

Please tell why you think Obama has a chance in any of these states. Really. I'd like to know. You just threw names against the wall.

I'm going to be honest... you don't know what the fuck you are talking about. Is this your first election? Do you have any idea about state trends?

[Marrah_G]

1. Why are you trying to stir this up again?

The primaries are over. The general election is over.

Stop it.

[ClarkUSA]

3. Stir what up again? It's fun to look back and enjoy the path that led to President Obama's victory.

[Occam Bandage]

6. The primaries. We weren't all following the same path at that point.

It's surely fun to look back on the path of victory for those of us who trod it, but for those who were following an alternate path, I think an entirely different message is given.

[ClarkUSA]

16. My advice to those who want to rain on the HOPE AND CHANGE parade: use your "ignore" button.

[Uzybone]

11. Its really telling to connect the virulent anti Obama of the past

with their anti Obama shit today.

I took a long break from DU during the primaries so its eye opening for me.

[AtomicKitten]

12. connect the dots

n/t

[ClarkUSA]

17. Isn't it? Those of us who were here recognize the same tone from the usual suspects.

Then there are the "newbies" who seem to only post anti-Obama bile right out of the gate... and how who can forget the
undead sockpuppet armies of the banned?

[alcibiades_mystery]

2. LOL...prediction FAIL

:rofl:

Still, there was nothing more comical than the absolute political dunces who thought Obama could lose Pennsylvania. These people really need to go hide in a corner, because they simply don't know what the fuck they're talking about, and their judgment on such things is absolutely worthless.

[Occam Bandage]

4. Let the past stay in the past.

That sounds like NJSecularist. IIRC, he was tombstoned after the primary. Let the dead sleep, man.

[onehandle]

5. There is a rule still in effect about post-primary flamebait. nt

[AtomicKitten]

7. *

* comment deleted - thread title was edited

[denem]

9. I wanted to make this about what seems improbable,

and the hard work and planning that can make it possible.

[AtomicKitten]

10. You are describing the Obama campaign.

n/t

[denem]

13. I am also describing an energy reform, and a real health care plan.

[AtomicKitten]

14. your OP seems to be evolving ;)

[denem]

15. Yes - I was making fun about "impossible things",

but I, like most people, here want to go on to make the next impossibility happen. The particular OP I re-posted wasn't hurtful. Many were deeply offensive and wounding. I was not trying to go back there.

[denem]

8. The future is 'the undiscovered country. It is ours to make

the improbable possible. 66 Democratic senators in 2010? Why not.