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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 01:49 AM
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Rightwingnut sign; "The Founding Fathers were rightwing extremists". Yeah, I'm series.
Dear, dear...oh dear, rightwingnuts.


Yes, the FF's fought off that nasty liberal leftwing commoner, King George.


Oy.

Even for the dumbest MFers on the planet, that's damn dumb.

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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 01:52 AM
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1. Peasant George III was trying to install a Communist State
Edited on Thu Apr-16-09 01:52 AM by rpannier
But, those authoritarian right wingers Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin and John Adams outdid him and installed a right-wing state based on their strong belief in the divinity of Jesus and their unflinching belief in the Christian God.
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 01:52 AM
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2. If there's one thing I've learned about the right over the years
it's that their well of stupidity has no bottom. No matter how low you think they can go, they can always go lower, It's the only area where I'll ever give them credit for proving me wrong.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 01:54 AM
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3. LOL!
:rofl:
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FVZA_Colonel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 02:02 AM
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4. Because Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Paine, and Benjamin Franklin were all the forefathers of the
religious right.
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FKA MNChimpH8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 02:27 PM
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28. True, and it wasn't easy considering that
they were two deists (TJ and BF) and one atheist (Paine).
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Kaleko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 02:04 AM
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5. That has to be considered proof
that the rapture has already taken place. These guys now live in an alternate reality, incomprehensible to those of us left behind. :rofl:
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 08:28 AM
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13. I can only wish they would be swept up
into heaven. Wouldn't it be nice without these clueless fucks?
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 04:47 AM
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6. When it comes to stoopid
Every day these clowns enlarge my view of the possible.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 06:10 AM
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7. Historic Fail
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 11:52 AM
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17. That's still one of my very fave lunatic rightwing signs, LOL!!!
"Would we have allowed Nazi Germany to host the Olympics?"



:rofl:
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 12:14 PM
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19. That was a lefty who had that sign.
Edited on Thu Apr-16-09 12:16 PM by Occam Bandage
It was in a protest against American refusal to condemn Chinese human rights abuses. You can see a "Free Tibet" sign behind the word "FAIL."
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 04:24 PM
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30. I think it's the only leftie FAIL pic I have
The rest are rightie or apolitical. :-)
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 06:20 AM
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8. What a liberal idea to throw off the yoke of a King...
Of course the RW would still be kissing the Kings ass if they had their way.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 06:32 AM
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9. Amazing...absolutely amazing...
and endless supply of humor based on extreme ignorance...
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HillWilliam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 01:15 PM
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25. It would be funny
if they weren't dragging the rest of us down with them. Gov Perry wants Texas to secede. I say give it to them, pull our assets out, and wall the sumbitch off.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 06:38 AM
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10. Lynn, you have the ability to think about things - these folks believe
what they are told and will accept anything without investigation. The RW'ers create non-specific fear, then give non-specific remedies, people are just conditioned to accept what "authorities" tell them.
Hitler would have loved these 'baggers, or as least manipulated them totally.


mark
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 07:35 AM
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11. They don't know History. The Tories were the rightwing extremists of the era.
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a la izquierda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 12:44 PM
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22. I had to tell my sister in law today that
she didn't know shit about history, despite what she thinks.

Needless to say, I don't think I'm allowed to their house anytime soon.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 08:14 AM
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12. Oy yoy yoy.
Fucking idiots, every last one of them--and I'm sure that these gentlemen would be happy to tell them so: George Washington, Benjamin Franklin (if this guy's a right winger I'll eat my socks), John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, James Monroe, as well as all the signers of the Declaration and the Constitution.
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ellie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 09:47 AM
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14. Thomas Jefferson a right winger!
Bwahahahahahahaha!
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olegramps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 10:49 AM
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15. Jefferson the Right Wing Nut Case
"History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil government. This marks the lowest grade of ignorance, of which their political as well as religious leaders will always avail themselves for their own purpose."

Letter to Baron von Humboldt, 1813 Thomas Jefferson


"I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations which dare already to challenge our government to a trial by strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country."

Thomas Jefferson

The more things change, the more they stay the same. Greed and power has always been the hallmarks of the ruling class whose appetite is impossible of being sated.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 12:23 PM
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20. Jefferson was indeed against religiosity and corporatism.
He was instead in favor of a gentrified rural society controlled by wealthy white male landowners who could spend their days studying and writing while the lower classes and the slaves produced. He was against a central government with any regulatory power, detested the idea of a national bank or of economic protectionism through tariffs, and was big on States' Rights.

Hamilton was the forerunner of the Federal government, and Jefferson the forerunner of the Confederacy.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 01:57 PM
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27. Wrong. Thomas Jefferson was a consistent opponent of slavery throughout his life.
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Donald Ian Rankin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 11:08 AM
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16. He's absolutely right.
They kept slaves, were mostly extremely racist and anti-semitic, banned women from voting, were mostly strongly pro-gun, anti-gay, anti tax and I suspect anti-abortion (although I haven't checked), would have been horrified at todays social security and the idea of single-payer health care, and there was a stronger pro-states-rights, anti-federalism movement among them than there is today.

They were left wing on a few issues (freedom of speech, separation of Church and State) and arguably less far right than many of their contemporaries, but in the main, by modern standards, they and everyone else before the 20th century was very far right indeed.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 12:13 PM
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18. If they were magically teleported to today, they would all
be so right-wing that they would make Ron Paul look positively centrist. They imagined an exceedingly limited government of, by, and for the landholding, well-educated, upper-class white-male gentry.

Not that it really matters. They were extraordinarily liberal in their day, and it's not fair to judge historical figures except in comparison to the zeitgeist of their era.
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 12:34 PM
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21. They'd be a mixed bag.
They'd be pro-gun as long as everyone who had guns was part of a volunteer defensive militia, anti state religion, pro freedom of speech and press, pro slavery, anti-women's vote, pro states' rights, anti unlawful search and seizure, and so on. They'd have some trouble negotiating the current political dynamic, I'm guessing.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 12:49 PM
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23. Yeah, I suppose I was a bit simplistic. I imagine they wouldn't have much to say
about any of our current fights, if only because they wouldn't remotely recognize the Federal government, party politics, complete enfranchisement, the welfare state, the globalized economy, the financial sector, the industrialized (and now post-industrial) domestic economy, globalized geopolitics, modern power projection, American society, or information technology.

But their inability to understand (without years of dedicated study) our modern issues notwithstanding, you're right they'd have trouble negotiating our current political dynamic. The political issues around which they defined themselves were settled over two hundred years ago. How do you square Federalism/anti-Federalism against our modern left-right split?
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 12:55 PM
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24. Thomas Paine was the original Moran
he can't even fpell!


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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 01:15 PM
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26. I know! "Interefting?" "Defign?" "Englifh?" "Succesffion?"
Edited on Thu Apr-16-09 01:15 PM by Occam Bandage
It's like he lost the "s" key on his keyboard, except for capital letters and at the end of words! What an idiot.
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cwcwmack Donating Member (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 02:41 PM
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29. lol..
got pic?
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