There is a major meltdown tonight on DU

[Top Cat]

Lot's of anger and finger point against our President tonight.... Last week everyone was patting their backs (You da man)...I support President Obama regardless of what some are saying around here.

[LittleBlue]

1. You support the President regardless of his actions or positions

I don't really understand that.

[Top Cat]

4. Don't put word in my mouth by no means did I say that.

[LittleBlue]

11. "I support the President regardless of what some are saying around here"

What are "some" saying?

[mkultra]

47. you pretty clearly twisted his meaning

He made no reference to "no matter what his actions" You made that part up from ether.

the "some" in this case, are the tried and true Obama bashers.

[jefferson_dem]

8. What I really don't understand is...

how you are such a stellar mind reader / fortune teller.

Right. People who don't jump to hyperventilations and hyperbole in the wake of an Olbermann comment must be Obamaton Kook-Aid Drinkers...

[Top Cat]

18. Thanks.....

[TreasonousBastard]

54. Well, I do...

Supporting the President does not mean supporting all of his actions.

I do not expect perfection from any President, so his administration would have to take some drastic turns to lose my support.

(Unlike the last one, who couldn't do anything right and we knew it from the start)

[KansasVoter]

2. Good. Blind support no matter what a president does is very GOP of you!

[Cha]

10. The OP doesn't

deserve that.

[jenmito]

33. "regardless of what some are saying" does NOT="regardless of what he does" (blind support).

:eyes:

[jefferson_dem]

37. Actually, it might be the other way around.

Some DUers respond to Olbermann "comments" with the exact same lock-step reactionary hyperventilations as Freepers do to a "red siren" headline at sludgereport.

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[mkultra]

48. back to twisting peoples words to bash Obama supporters again?

[HopeOverFear]

3. they don't want justice they want REVENGE

they're clearly coming from an irrational and emotional POV.

[mmonk]

46. Tired excuse.

I want justice and freedom and a working checks and balances form of government. Keeping a free society for my children is not revenge.

[Political Heretic]

58. How is it justice to not prosecute constitutional violations and criminal acts?

And how is it "REVENGE" to do so?

[ananda]

5. The imperial presidency beholden to corporate and financial interests..

.. is the problem, not any one particular
person.

You might have noticed that candidates
outside the power elite and corporate
stranglehold simply don't have a chance
to get elected.

Look at Dennis Kucinich and Howard Dean,
who would have made truly great presidents!

[HopeOverFear]

7. look at Dennis Kucinich

...who is batshit crazy. :eyes:

[sweetladybug]

25. I like Dennis Kucinich. I don't agree with him on everything but he is

NOT batshit crazy. If you want to see some batshit crazies turn your tv to Fox News

[sweetladybug]

30. I think we have some Freepers trying to upset folks on DU.

:patriot: Liberal and proud of it

[HopeOverFear]

32. what's a Freeper?

[JeanGrey]

61. That's what I said when I first came on here.

It refers to free republic.com, a conservative site.

[CBR]

13. What is with the worship of DK? Worship of no one is

healthy. Obama, Krugman, Kucinich...

[politicasista]

15. Exactly

It's destructive and can lead to future disappointment. They are all human.

[mvd]

20. Even DK is not perfect

I would also say if I think he is wrong.

[CTLawGuy]

45. please tell me how Obama is

beholden to corporate and financial interests?

This should be good.

[mkultra]

49. corps employee people

people who need money for food. Stopping the job loss in America means stemming the tide of bank and corporate closings. You are either wealthy or never have worked yourself. Stop trying to put us poor people out of work.

[derby378]

6. This is DEMOCRATIC Underground, not OBAMA Underground

So you support Obama's decision. That's fine. But I assert that waterboarding is a war crime that is prosecutable no matter what the Bush DoJ memos state, no matter what Holder says, no matter what Obama says.

[Top Cat]

12. You have every right to your opinion and so do I.

[LittleBlue]

17. What is your opinion?

You've not laid it out in the thread.

[mkultra]

50. are you looking for more words to twist?

[mvd]

14. Yes, and even if you argue that, it's no excuse not to go up to those who ordered it

Obama gave me no indication that he might investigate anyone involved. I generally try to defend Obama, but not when I really feel he is too meek or wrong.

[The Wielding Truth]

16. The ship is going down and you want us to jump ship go after

the guys who poked holes.

It is time to plug the holes and head to shore,then while the haul is being fixed we can send out the dogs.

[Boomerang Diddle]

21. Are you sure it's not HOWARD DEAN underground?

eom

[LostinVA]

35. That doesn't even make any sense

[Boomerang Diddle]

39. See the ridiculous "Time to draft Howard Dean for 2012" post. n/t

[TTUBatfan2008]

28. I don't support Obama's "decision" but I also don't know if he really had a choice...

If the CIA threatened to pull a JFK on him, then what the fuck else is he supposed to do? They have more power than all 3 branches of the government and we know they do all kinds of illegal shit in their day to day operations. We don't know what they told him. This is an "if" scenario of course, so take it with a grain of salt, but IF I was in his shoes and was threatened by the CIA I'd probably do exactly what he did. Some folks don't mind being martyred for their cause. I'm secure enough in my own fears to admit wanting to cling to my own life as much as possible. There is a very short list of causes I would die for. Torture prosecution is not on the list.

[Double T]

9. ALWAYS question the ULTIMATE AUTHORITY.............

then question the ULTIMATE AUTHORITY....Again!

[Thrill]

19. Some people up here, can be just like the Freepers they make fun of.

[Political Heretic]

59. I agree, only I think we would identify different groups of people with that statement.

:)

[Spazito]

22. It has been amazing to watch and read DU recently....

I am seeing more than a few OPs and posts that are castigating the President for not doing this or that NOW, issues that are in the purview of the DOJ, Obama is expected to simply override the DOJ and get it done NOW, issues that are in the purview of Congress, Obama is expected to ignore Congress and get it done NOW.

Well, when bush did exactly what some people are wanting Obama to do, there was holy hell raised and rightly so. Unlike bush, President Obama is FOLLOWING the rules and the CONSTITUTION and that slows things down but, in the end, it gets it done and done the right way.

Obama is NOT signing executive orders that override the powers of the other juristictions to get things done NOW and that is a DAMN GOOD THING, imo.

[Patsy Stone]

23. Nah, in the realm of major DU meltdowns, this ain't shit.

But thanks for your concern.

[Top Cat]

34. I would hate to see a real meltdown....

[Patsy Stone]

36. Did you miss:

Rick Warren?
David Shuster?
Jason Leopold?
Hillary running in the primary?

And any other number of topics where there were at least 50 or more threads about it?

If we're still "melting down" on Monday, wake me. So far, this is nothing.

[AlCzervik]

38. yup.

the inability of people to use hide thread is amusing.


:toast: :hi:

[Patsy Stone]

40. I was just trying to remember

what the topic was the night I hid 30+ threads about something -- from the first page alone.

:hi:

[Spazito]

44. My love for the hide thread option really came alive during the Popaluzza time...

it really got a work out then, lol.

[Patsy Stone]

56. Did you mean?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x3006464

:)

[Spazito]

60. Damn, now I have to use the hide thread option again!

:rofl:

[liberalmuse]

24. President Obama IS one of the good guys. He had NOTHING to do with this shit.

He did the right thing, but the ball is in our courts now. WE need to press for investigations.

[Starry Messenger]

26. 'Some people say..." n/t

[zeemike]

27. What the problem is is that it is easy to sit at the keyboard

And decide what should be done and do it with a lot of moral conviction.
But quite another to sit in the oval office and confront the real problems and the enormous consequences of those decisions.
If you don't have faith in this man to do what he can to change things then who do you have faith in?
And if you have someone in mind then how are you going to get him in office?
Like someone said "the art of politics is what is possible"

[AllentownJake]

29. When isn't there a meltdown on DU?

[Danger Mouse]

31. It's no worse than normal.

[stray cat]

42. If there isn't a major meltdown on DU someone will make one up to let off steam

there are always those that are unhappy and those who disagree with those complaining about how unhappy they are and how everybody else should feel just as unhappy as they are - and vice versa. DU exists to have meltdowns much like free republic I suspect.

[Top Cat]

62. I suppose u are right

[Renew Deal]

43. Every night is Meltdown Night at DU

:D

[Lady-Damai]

51. HA! n/t

[Lilith Velkor]

52. You call it "a major meltdown." We call it "Thursday."

[PBS Poll-435]

53. LOL

:thumbsup:

So very true...

[grantcart]

55. DUzy Hall of Fame

[Political Heretic]

57. LOL! Thank you for the laugh :)