Blame the Black man

[angee_is_mad]

1.Economy has been sinking for eight years, but when a Black man gets the job three months ago its his fault.

2.Why have tea bag parties when a Black man is President and not when white men have been running the country for centuries?

3.Black man pulls himself by his bootstraps and did everything he was suppose to do and he is an elitist and his intelligent, beautiful classy BLACK wife is called a terrorist and TRASH.

4.He release torture memos to show transparency, but people are angry about him for not going after the torturers.

*An other point about the torturers. I remember gitmo and the photos and everyone said bush should go after the higher ups (officers) and not scapegoat the soldiers.

A Black man has the WORST JOB in the world. SHIT IS FUCKED UP and it is coming at him from all sides and up and down and he has only been in office THREE FUCKING MONTHS!!! THREE FUCKING MONTHS!!!

[Captain Hilts]

1. You could substitute 'Bill Clinton' and it would be just as true. nt

[Sparkly]

3. "Blame the Democrat" would work. nt

[Captain Hilts]

6. We have a winnah! There you go WifeofStinkyTheClown. nt

[Hieronymus]

7. Of course, but some must interject race.

[liberalmuse]

13. Did you happen to see some of those signs?

Racists were well represented in that sorry bunch of teabaggers yesterday. Race is a factor here.

[angee_is_mad]

15. Everyone has been praising KO tonite

and no mention of what Jeannine said about the teabaggers on his show. Its not about the economy or taxes, but its about him being BLACK!!!!

I know progressives doesn't like to talk about race, since we live a a postracial society:sarcasm:

[upyourstruly]

65. compromise

How about this Instead of feeling so blue. When he does something good we will credit his black half. When he does something we don't like we will blame his white half. will that make you happy?

[angee_is_mad]

66. Great point and good idea

:sarcasm:
Give me a fucking break!

[HamdenRice]

33. That's why it's true: Bill Clinton was the first Black President!

:rofl:

[glowing]

2. I'm after him, because he told us to hope. He told us he knows better.

He's like us. He had to work and know that your parents say no. Money isn't grown on trees. Be kind. He studied and taught Constitutional Law. He knows better. I don't care about republicans or wingnuts hangup over teh black man.. I hold him to a higher standard because he told us to. AND for the last 8 yrs I haven't been silent.. just too many Americans are still apethetic and sheep.. they didn't stand up in time to stop the pain they are now feeling. Unfortunately, the job losses and homelessness has increased dramatically in the last couple of months. If you lose everything, its much harder to re-build it all over again.. especially with a shitty credit score.

[Solomon]

4. And you don't know one-thousandth of what he knows.

You know absolutely nothing of what he knows, yet you sit on your righteous horse. Listen to yourself. It's only been three fucking months for chrissakes. Yet you, you, and only you, know better what to do than he does.

You say he told you to hope, but you're doing a piss poor job of it.

[glowing]

60. Sometimes you must pull him out of what he knows into what is right.

its been wrong for so long. Everything we are taught, everything that happens, everything that we are supposed to believe about this country and this world is based on lies. taking baby steps isn't going to help. Sometimes you just have to do.. make it right.. stop living insane lies. it drives me crazy to have to continue pretending that going to work makes a difference in anyone's lives... running like ants to live, to eat, to enjoy life.. its all such a farce. it makes me want to scream that we all have to continue pretending any of the polite politics makes any sense to anyone.

[Captain Hilts]

8. Bill Clinton and Michelle Obama are the poor kids that crashed the party. nt

[angee_is_mad]

16. He said he wasn't PERFECT

and he would make mistakes and would admit to them. He is a man with the whole world on his shoulders.

[masuki bance]

5. I saw this

[Hanse]

9. Don't forget the auto industry.

Been fucking up for decades, but if it fails it's Obama's fault.

[Captain Hilts]

10. He's choosing to stomp them flat while giving Wall St. all it wants. nt

[Hanse]

14. Thanks for proving my point.

He's given them bailout money, he's tried to help them restructure...

But no. He's some savage thugged who's "stomped them flat."

[Captain Hilts]

17. He's requiring FAR more of Detroit. Not the blank check Wall St. is getting. nt

[Hanse]

19. You complain when he requires things of the companies he bails out...

and then you people whine about when he doesn't put enough restrictions on the companies he bails out.

Like the recent teabaggers, honest constructive criticism isn't your intention.

[bvar22]

41. The Auto Industry did NOT receive a "Bailout".

It received a small (by Wall St standards) LOAN contingent with some HARSH conditions for LABOR.

[vaberella]

35. Tell me about it. I was 12 (28 years now) and my teach even said, most adverts on tv, no one can

afford them and they are basically going bankrupt....does that make any sense.

[spoony]

43. If he forces them into bankruptcy and mergers that will destroy

their workers, then yes it's his fault. Don't bother replying, I know from your other posts on the matter you have no fucking clue what you're talking about when it comes to this.

[Bluebear]

11. 'He release torture memos to show transparency, but people are angry about him...

for not going after the torturers."

Uh, yeah. How does this relate to him being black?

[Cash_thatswhatiwant]

12. Hm.

um...are you insinuating that someone should not be allowed to say its wrong for him not to go after the torturers because he's black?

[angee_is_mad]

18. I saw Jeanine on KO tonite

and being a Black woman and coming on here, it really struck me about what she was talking about.

[Cash_thatswhatiwant]

21. and what did she say?

[angee_is_mad]

22. Janeane Garofalo

Sorry for the misspelling. Of course I'm not comparing my progressive friends on DU to teabaggers, but listening to her tonight really struck a cord.
Here is a link: She comes on at the 3:00 mark.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677#30255102

[MoJoWorkin]

20. This too, shall pass--until the next outrage.

I have never, in all my 64 years, ever trusted a pol, as I trust President Obama. He has proven himself time and again, to me. He is only a man, but a very, very smart one, who is always several steps ahead of just about everybody.

Patience doesn't seem to be the strong suit of KO, or some here on DU.

I plan to give our President (of only 3 months) plenty of time to right the ship, as he has inherited just about the worst mess in history on so many fronts.

Patience. It appears that Barack has it in abundance. He is also working harder, and tackling more all at once, than any President I have seen in my lifetime.

We are damn lucky to have him as our President.

[butterfly77]

48. Say it again!

:hi: :kick: :kick: :kick:

[FrenchieCat]

23. Hey, he's just the janitor who's supposed to clean up all the shit,

or die trying. Afterall, that's the only reason he was elected...so that he could be told what to do and not give back any lip. When we say jump, he's supposed to say how high. We don't really care about any of the other stuff we have demanded of him until we do....we want what we want and when we want it. And if he doesn't give it to us, well....then...Fuck him! :sarcasm:

[biopowertoday]

40. No surprise you would agree with this race-baiting post.

[brentspeak]

24. Dumb Thread of the Day

[Supersedeas]

36. dunno about dumb....but somewhat predictable

where rational arguments fail

[NatBurner]

37. smh

go home, roger

[dorkulon]

56. Agreed.

Yes, we're all racists here on DU.

[Lyric]

25. If you're talking about the idiotic Teabaggers, then right on.

'Cause that's the root of the problem, and they're too fucking cowardly to come right out and admit it. They insinuate, imply, skate around saying it, make off-color nasty racist jokes, use pictures of monkeys, and do everything BUT come out and call him the N-Word on a sign.

I can't wait for people like that to die off, so we can finally start to build a truly egalitarian society.

[mmonk]

26. Number 4 shouldn't be on your list.

It is what ties him to the white man before him.

[chollybocker]

27. Are you trying to tell me there's a RACE issue with the Obama Presidency?

Well, color me blind.

[TheKentuckian]

28. I don't know if it is about race but it is clear that for whatever reason

Obama is held to the highest standard in history by some. Others may well have done less and be considered great but somehow he will be a failure if he doesn't exceed his predecessors in most areas. In some cases failure equals not reinventing the wheel to fit an ideal.

If Obama were to get just barely passing grades from many of his critics here, he'd still grade out head and shoulders above any before him. Hell, if he didn't do a single thing more he'd already be in the top half as far as impact. Seems to me Obama has been as busy as a long tailed cat in a room full of rocking chairs. So far we have one that is well above average.

[Beacool]

29. I see..............

So, if he were a white Democrat there wouldn't be any opposition from conservatives? That's a new one.

:eyes:

[Occam Bandage]

32. Conservatives loved the Clintons. Never bashed 'em once. nt

[Lilith Velkor]

59. Mmm hmm.

Looks like teabaggers aren't the only ones into revisionism and truthiness. :eyes:

[Supersedeas]

42. that's something

[empyreanisles]

30. K&R

[Occam Bandage]

31. I don't think crying racism here is appropriate.

The same shit happened to Clinton, and to Carter, and would have happened to Hillary, Kerry, Gore, Dukakis, Mondale, etc.

[Orsino]

34. Well, there's fault and there's responsibility.

Obama volunteered for the latter, though as a senator he only earned a share in the former.

Bush's fuck-ups have become nation-threatening crises, however, so the current president doesn't get nearly as much slack as his predecessor, who reigned in a time of alleged stability. Yes, Obama has inherited what should have been the worst job in the world all along--and only now have we decided to make it so.

The American people who let Bush nap while his cronies pillaged have begun to wake up, only to find out that the getaway car has long since departed.

[biopowertoday]

38. Another race-baiting post on DU.

[butterfly77]

49. Wrong..

[Starry Messenger]

62. WTH?

It seemed more like a frustrated cry from the heart. People come here to vent sometimes. x( Geesh.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

39. You took me to a steaming hot southern Baptist church on that one! Kick and Fucking Recommended! n/t

[my2sense]

44. and let's not forget about the states wanting to secede

now that we have a black man as President...... post-racial my ass.

[bullwinkle428]

45. #1, 2, and 3 are based on irrational wing-nut (and race-based) anger.

#4 is based on the legitimate wishes of the American people that still have functioning brain cells.

[CakeGrrl]

46. I support your general post.

Despite the outcry of some that this is "race-baiting", it is not.

To say that it isn't a factor to some degree (meaning that not EVERYONE is a racist), is naive.

Yes, even on DU there may actually (GASP!) be some with less than perfect attitudes when it comes to being color-blind. It may not be you, the reader of this post, personally, but I'd bet some are out there.

It's not about whether any Democrat would be opposed; it's in part the DEGREE of the level of vitriol and hate directed at the Obamas.

Do you expect people to admit it? Of course not - unless they're a proud member of the KKK or Neo-Nazis, they keep it under wraps.

But it's subtle and simple; some people simply don't want to be under the command of a black man. To wit, the recent story of an enlisted man who didn't want to serve for exactly this reason.

Don't forget the point made above about secession. Why NOW, Texas?

I'd put up good money that the Secret Service has seen an unprecedented uptick in the number and the viciousness of threats against this president.

[cwcwmack]

47. dramatic perhaps?

If it were Hillary in office we'd hear the same tune... or Kucinich or Edwards or Dean.

[butterfly77]

50. Wrong..

[cwcwmack]

51. do you REALLY think

that many people today in 2009 really give a shit if a man is 100%AA, 50%AA or 0%AA?

I mean OTHER than "Deliverance" country... does anyone give a shit?

[CBR]

52. Yes. I see it all of the time.

[butterfly77]

53. Yes!

[cwcwmack]

54. well...

I'm in a suburb of Los Angeles and I think it's fair to say that racism is dead here...

"Classism maybe... but not racism. If you're the black Doctor in the gated community, you're part of the club."

I think middle-upper class white folk are more intimidated by "scary looking inner city folk (of any color)" than by a black man/family.

[butterfly77]

55. I think it depends on what it relates to...

Some think they aren't but it is deeply embedded and surfaces in certain situations and they may not even realize it themselves. I think that some don't like to deal with some black people unless absolutely necessary because they fear that some black person may call them a racist at some point.Some are so afraid that they don't even look at a black person as equal to them.

Some use sterotypes but everyone is different no matter what the race people are people. I think that a person relates to who they are associated, with and if they don't take the time to know others they will sterotype a certain race with whatever they learn through their environment and the media.

I think that some are having a hard time adjusting to a black man as President, and its hitting them really,really hard.

[Lilyeye]

61. Please stop with the "racism is only in the south" BS.

[angee_is_mad]

63. Don't forget about Pa

I'm in NC and have a coworker who is from Pittsburgh and she said she was so embarrassed by her state during the primaries. She also said that racism is alive and well there but it is more subtle in the North than it is in the South.

[Lilyeye]

64. Your friend is 100% correct. Racism isn't totally dead anywhere in this country.

[MiniMe]

57. I caught about 5 minutes of Rush's show today...

He is doind a fundraiser for leukemia research, have to give him a teeney bit of credit for that. If you donate a certain amount you get an original "Ditto-head" t-shirt. Donate a little more, and get the t-shirt and an EIB hat. Donate a lot and get a black EIB polo shirt, he said that a lot of thought went into the color of this year's polo shirt. They made it black because of Obama's economy. I thought that an economy in the black would be a good economy. Could there be some "other" meaning behind it? And then he went on a rant about Jeans and t-shirts. I'm disinfecting my poor ears now.

[Top Cat]

58. BLAME THE BLACK MAN.... K&R

[MellowDem]

67. There are some who see it that way...

but the vast majority of conservatives would be doing this regardless of the color of the Democrat's skin who was president. Obama's race isn't much of an issue compared to the policies he stands for. And he is half-white half-black...

[countingbluecars]

68. Hell yes, it's about race.