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Top Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 03:05 PM
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Tea Party Fallout: Independents Turned Off, Some GOPers Worried
It's been two days now since angry conservatives hosted a series of tea parties across the country, and the fallout has some Republicans nervous.

While the anti-tax sentiment of the protests may have been sincere, the images pulled from the events have often been offensive, embarrassing, or politically problematic.

It is a development that has tripped up the GOP before. The rallies outside McCain-Palin events included some of the same bile that was seen at the tea parties: charges of fascism, terrorism and other malicious criticisms leveled at Barack Obama. And it did the Republican ticket little good in its efforts to bring moderate voters to the cause.

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McCain-Palin Rallies:






Not everyone sees the connection. But some Republicans and Independents do view the fallout between the tea parties and the McCain-Palin rallies in a similar way: bad for the GOP.

"It is not clear-cut that the tea-party phenomena helps the GOP, unless they have a specific measure or policy (like Prop. 13 in 1978, and income tax cuts after that) to coalesce around," said Steven Hayward, a scholar at the conservative American Enterprise Institute. "Right now it reminds me a bit of the free-floating 'angry moderates' of 1992 who fueled the Ross Perot candidacy, and that is the hazard for Republicans I think. I think the crazies at the rallies are a problem, but probably out of proportion (they always get the media attention) to the real breadth of sentiment underneath, which I think is largely authentic."

Self-professed middle-of-the-road political types were even more biting in their critiques.

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"My own sense that is I don't see anything going on that is good for Republicans," said Doug Bailey, a longtime Republican consultant who helped co-found the centrist reform movement Unity08. "I just don't get it. It may be, and I don't doubt this, that there is a large segment of the American public that can and is riled up about taxes and can be riled up about one thing or another. But a large segment, in terms of numbers, doesn't amount to a couple hundred people demonstrating in Washington or wherever. That's a non-event ... Nobody likes taxes. So, of course, I'm sympathetic myself. I might throw a tea bag myself. But the fact is, that it is particularly ineffective for the Republican Party when it is Rush Limbaugh and the likes stirring it up. That just doesn't speak to the middle."

Of course, because the series of nationwide tea parties were geared towards a specific day (Tax Day), the political ramifications of the events seem naturally limited. "Those tea parties will be long forgotten by, oh, say tomorrow," said Stu Rothenberg, of the Rothenberg Political Report. "Do you really think that next November, when people go to the polls, the April 15 tea parties will be on their minds?"

That said, plans are in place for a next wave of protests in July. More significantly, as the GOP continues to stake their future on a wave of populist anger at the government and economy (witness: Texas Gov. Rick Perry talking about secession), the likelihood only increases that the most vocal and offensive elements of that anger will come to personify the party.

"Cons finding out why I generally don't like protests on my side," Daily Kos founder Markos Moulitsos said in a post-tea party tweet. "hey bring out the wackos."



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCA-3q6t57Q&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52eMiVzVLi8&feature=player_embedded

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/17/tea-party-fallout-indepen_n_188235.html

(This is great news)


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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 03:07 PM
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1. I'm guessing Markos didn't actually say "Hey, bring out the wackos!"
Still, very nice article. :thumbsup:
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Top Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 03:11 PM
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2. I'm not sure but that is exactly what the are....
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 03:15 PM
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4. No, no, my point is, when you cut 'n' pasted the article from Huffpost...
....DU doesn't read the brackets around the first letter of the word "They." So right now, within your OP, it looks like the last sentence of the article is "hey bring out the wackos."

Just struck me as funny.
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Top Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 06:59 PM
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13. Oh
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 03:12 PM
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3. I'm guessing the GOP doesn't like when their fan base puts their racism on prominent display
The GOP usually prefers much more subtle forms of racism.
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Still Sensible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 03:18 PM
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5. Between the implied racism, the direction-less speakers and
the obvious illiteracy on display at those events, why the hell should the GOP be surprised that independents aren't falling all over themselves to join their movement? The turnout, as reported by the MSM I paid attention to, made it pretty clear that the teabaggers turnout was dominated by the real fringe of the right. Their messages were wacky and their signs were laughable.
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JeffreyWilliamson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 03:24 PM
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6. The teabaggers never saw it coming.
Edited on Fri Apr-17-09 03:26 PM by JeffreyWilliamson
:rofl:
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 03:35 PM
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7. Already, I can't wait for next year's Tea Party II.
:rofl:

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Andy823 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 03:40 PM
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8. The images I have seen
All pretty much show republicans who just simply are sore losers or people that probably are in need of some serious mental health counseling! Add in the nuts from Fox news, the rants of Limbaugh, and I can see why any "normal" person, no matter what party they belong to, would have a negative opinion of these tea parties! Oh, and I forgot to mention the obvious "racists" at those parties.

I see the republican party sinking in a bog of quicksand, with nobody around to pull them out. The party leaders in congress look like complete idiots when they are on TV, Palin is arguing with the 18 year old father of her grandson, republican governors are talking about session, Rush puts the president down for not being tough enough with the pirates who he says were terrorists, then does a double take and tries to paint those same pirates as innocent teenagers that Obama had "killed" while he says they were trying to surrender, and then the boys on Fox who are plain "insane" ranting about a revolution. it just keeps getting worse for the republicans and their chances of getting anyone but the far right nut cases to take them serious!

This tea party thing isn't working, so it will be interesting what they come up with next.
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 03:49 PM
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9. Little more than Brownshirt rallies.
Organized by Fox under the pretense of "anti-tax" rallies (shortly after being given another tax cut), I think the real purpose was to consolidate their power and use the publicity to try to draw in more suckers. There was no real legitimate focus, just general troublemaking.

Reasonably sane people won't go there.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 04:06 PM
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10. Palin 2012!
:rofl:
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jesus_of_suburbia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 04:21 PM
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11. I really hope so... she has no chance of winning, lol!
How about Palin/Bachmann?

or

Palin/Jindal?

or

Palin/Santorum?





I'd love ANY of those.
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Elwood P Dowd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 04:49 PM
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12. Palin/Plumber
That would be a hoot!
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Top Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 07:02 PM
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14. That is a scary thought the two of them bringing out the worst in their base..
They would have National Guard post in most towns to protect those of us that are sane.
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