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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 02:29 PM
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Obama up at CIA. Big ovation therel
he's about to speak, but the applause is nuts.
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 02:31 PM
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1. Clearly they resent having to serve under him
Our security was endangered by the misguided choice made by the American people in November.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 02:31 PM
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2. Trust me. They're thrilled he's there. Most of 'em. CIA used to be known as
"The most liberal thinktank in DC." THAT's why GWB blamed them for the 'intelligence failure' when it was his own 'created from scratch' Office of Special Plans that stove-piped Chalabi's shit to get us into a war.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 02:32 PM
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4. you can tell how angry they are at Obama for releasing the torture memos.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 02:31 PM
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3. Panetta speaking now
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 02:34 PM
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5. why shouldn't they be excited over his presence
Edited on Mon Apr-20-09 02:34 PM by bdamomma
he is not pressing charges against them.
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 02:46 PM
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10. Yes, every single person who works for the CIA tortured people.
:eyes:
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HopeOverFear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 02:52 PM
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16. oh shut up
:eyes:
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Aloha Spirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 02:42 PM
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6. prez talking candidly about olc memos
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Aloha Spirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 02:45 PM
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9. Says we are best served when we abide by the rule of law because that's the foundation of the power
of our values.

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Aloha Spirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 02:46 PM
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11. Sounds kinda like a pep talk after a bad game lol
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 02:49 PM
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14. yeah it does. and I don't like it.
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HopeOverFear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 02:54 PM
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17. Why don't you like it? Just asking,
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 02:43 PM
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7. Isn't that like going to the jail and passing out the keys.
Who would complain?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 02:44 PM
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8. um, no.
unless you think that everyone working at the CIA is a criminal.
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 03:08 PM
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20. Good bye to you.
Is this what they mean when people stalk you out here? I can always count on you. Of course everyone in the CIA isn't a criminal. You will know that because those who aren't will stand up in front of Obama and demand that our country follow the rule of law and demand that those who have broken it should be tried in a court of Law. Goodbye forever.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 03:21 PM
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23. its a diversion to insinuate that the whole agency is bad when we
Edited on Mon Apr-20-09 03:22 PM by roguevalley
demand that the assholes among them be prosecuted for their crimes. that our president is a lawyer and is willing to overlook the cruelty that we all have to bear by the actions of a few is a bit hard to take. its disappointing. criminals, no matter who and where they are should face the music like anyone else or our 'system' of justice is a bigger joke than it appears to be.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 02:47 PM
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12. Of course they are,
By refusing to prosecute their fellow CIA agents, he is essentially giving the CIA a get out of jail free card. What's not to applaud?
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 02:48 PM
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13. Is it on the tele?
:hi:
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HopeOverFear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 02:51 PM
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15. OMG Look at them! They are SO EXCITED!!!!
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 03:01 PM
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18. Because they are finally going to get standards they can follow
instead of being whipsawed all the time on the wims of superiors.
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 03:16 PM
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22. No matter.
If you intend on not holding the 'superiors' accountable you need not waste your time supporting the underlings who do not know right from wrong.
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DiverDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 03:03 PM
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19. When I was in Basic training in 1974
We were told that if we thought an order was unlawful, we were encouraged to question that order and NOT carry it out, taking it up the chain of command.
This was after the Mei Lai killings of men, women and children.
To say that "I was following orders" got the nazi interrogators AND the judges that issued the orders hung.
We CANNOT let this slide, it was a crime, and I am just amazed that the President would just let it slide.
I'm sending emails to my reps to demand a full investigation, and trials.
We cannot hang German criminals for what we did and just "look forward", we just can't.

This is Change?

Dave, B troop 1/1 Cav, Schawabach, West Germany 1974-1975
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 03:10 PM
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21. Thanks for posting this.
Peace, Kim
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 03:25 PM
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25. That was a very big ovation for him. I like how the Repuke on CNN said
Edited on Mon Apr-20-09 03:31 PM by Thrill
It was because it was his demographic, mostly young people. lol. The puke was Cheri Jacobus.
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JayMusgrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 03:29 PM
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26. Repukes are such obnoxious people in this world... I think we should
outlaw Republican marriage, it only serves to breed more of them.


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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 03:34 PM
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27. I bet they are happy. They won't be prosecuted for torture.
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 03:37 PM
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28. You might not have gotten the memo.
We aren't supposed to think that out here. We need to sit back and enjoy the CIA enjoying themselves. Go figure.
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HopeOverFear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 03:39 PM
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29. WHOA Cali you weren't kidding about the big ovation!!!!
You would've thought Luther (RIP) or Michael Jackson walked into the room!

http://www.c-span.org/Watch/watch.aspx?MediaId=HP-A-17645
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