And so it begins.

[zeemike]

That is the bring down of the Obama administration...or at least the attempt.
my right wing friend just posted this to me in another forum and I know from experience that he will get the memo that the right wing uses early and so it is easy for me to predict what is coming down the pike:

Hambali also led the bombings of 30 churches across Indonesia in 2000 during Christmas Eve services -- which killed 17 -- and helped fund the August 5, 2003, Jakarta Marriott Hotel attack that killed 11 and wounded 150.

And now even columnists at the Huffington Post are asking "What would you not do to stop a nuke"?

To put things in simple terms for any "progressives" reading along, here's what the EITs revealed after 3,000 American civilians were slaughtered in cold blood by Al Qaeda:

• FACT: EITs produced 3,000 of the 6,000 critical counter-terror intelligence reports only after normal techniques had proven fruitless;

• FACT: EITs used on Zubaydah revealed KSM's identity as a mastermind behind the 9/11 attacks;

• FACT: KSM ratted out a number of mass-murderers including Hambali;

• FACT: Hambali's brother ratted out a cell bent on "9/11 Wave 2" on the West Coast;

• FACT: Zubaydah also revealed Padilla and his plan to detonate a simplistic dirty bomb in Washington, DC;

So, drones, you can either believe the CIA forged 3,000 documents and magically captured mass-murderers without EITs... or you can believe the truth. And here's a warning:

Any attempts to investigate or prosecute attorneys or officials in the Bush administration will be exposed for what they are: political witch-hunts, motivated by Obama's endless campaign against George W. Bush that masks his complete, utter inability to govern the United States of America.

So there we have it...look for this soon at your fair and balanced fox network and posted on right wing blogs everywhere.

[liberalmuse]

1. Justifying torture.

This shit isn't going to fly. Not with people who aren't fucking monsters, that is.

[tekisui]

2. EITs, how cute. TORTURE. These fuckheads are sick in the brain

to defend, with fervor, torture. Every last sick fucking one of them. From that asshole to the repukes on the Hill and on tv. What a soulless deadened group of low life fuckheads.

[FrenchieCat]

3. What Obama attempted to do was to make sure that

any investigation would not be seen as him politicizing his office for retribution, hence his use of that very word; time for reflection and not retribution. However, many who were glamoring for President to be gun-ho about investigation of the last administration didn't understand (and many still don't) exactly why the President was playing it like he was. Because he knows something about politics that obviously many here don't seem to give a shit about.

Now, I'm just waiting for the media to fuck these investigations up, by making it political as opposed to moral. They are good at stirring up shit, and I wished that the President would have held out a bit longer, and have gotten more journalists on record insisting that he should want to investigate....cause then, when he would have given the go-ahead, these same folks couldn't say shit. As it is, he moved too soon, although some here will argue that he didn't move fast enough.

[zeemike]

10. you got it right Frenchie

And perhaps Obama is moving too fast.
but I think it will all come down to us...If we get behind him with the full force of our numbers he will be successful and so will we.
But if we allow them to divide us...and you can bet they will try we don't have a prayer.

[BeFree]

14. Problem is

The pukes would scream "Politics" no matter what. So why don't you just lay off on your accusations against those who are arguing for the right thing to be done?

Could be that what some of us are doing is exactly what Obama and the nation needs the most. IMO, it is. Everything that clamors for the right thing to be done is good. Anyone trying to beat down that clamoring could be viewed as an enemy of what's right.

[leftynyc]

4. Where does he/she

get his/her "facts" from?

[zeemike]

13. It is a he and he gets it from other right wing bloggers

And publications like Investors Business Daily.
And the rest he just makes up

[WeDidIt]

5. Ask him for proof of his so-called "FACT"s.

Demand a link.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

9. No, he clearly said FACt not fact or fakt. All caps and everything, OK.

So there is no need to question this. :rofl:

[zeemike]

15. Oh he post links alright

To other right wing bloggers of sites.
And it does no good to point out to him the real facts...they will not listen.

[dalaigh lllama]

6. I'd simply ask him to link to the document with these alleged facts

Oh, that's right. It must be hard to get at, wedged tightly as it is up someone's a$$.

[Starry Messenger]

7. ***SOURCE OF TEXT***

http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2009/04/exclusive-text-what-waterboarding.html

I think we'll be ok. This guy is tinfoil all over. It appears to be this blogger's original "research" found when running the text of your clip through the googles.

[zeemike]

18. No but I am sure he cut and pasted from some other source

And the right wing shares in that respect.

[Starry Messenger]

22. Sorry, I changed my subject header.

For extra lulz here's the blog writer's Twitter.

http://twitter.com/directorblue

I'll keep an eye out though. So far I've only found it on someone's else's clipmarks website and they credit Doug's blog.

[Born_A_Truman]

24. Now, now, we all know ChEEney had the CIA docs sent to him secretly...

before they are released to the public.

[Soylent Brice]

8. this country is waking up from an 8 yr slumber.

let them think they have a viable plan. it only makes them look worse. when the mainstream view of this situation becomes clear and solidifies, thes fuckwads will find themselves in the minority.

the phrase, "give them enough rope to hang themselves" seems to apply here.

[harun]

11. Notice how freepers NEVER actually cite the "FACTS", it is all BS

all the time. The only thing they can cite to substantiate their fact's is these BS emails some asshat made up.

[Fire1]

12. The ole' 'end justifies the means.' Got it.

[Peacetrain]

16. Justifying torture.. the last stand of the unforgivable.

[Renew Deal]

17. Ask him to prove each one of those points.

What's the source?

[zeemike]

20. Actually I have been going round and round with him

sense the Clinton administration and he has yet to prove any fact that he claims is.
And like all right wingers when cornered he results to name calling...and that is how I know I have won the argument.

[Renew Deal]

21. Then tell him to stop making stuff up.,

If he doesn't provide the source, he must be the source.

[annabanana]

19. heh. . . . "link?"

That's it.

[OneGrassRoot]

23. They're the ones I had in mind when I wrote this:

Would they sodomize a 15-year-old to get information? Is THAT an acceptable EIT even for those chickenhawk, arrogant, ignorant, pathetic excuses for human beings?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=5511625&mesg_id=5511625

[DrToast]

25. Oh no, I'm so scared....

Give me a break. The GOP has no credibility right now. I'm supposed to be afraid of this garbage?

[grantcart]

26. And so it ends

183


All of the arguments fail when they admit that they waterboarded the guy 183 times. That single fact destroys all arguments.

If it worked it would have worked after 20 times.

What exactly was gain with waterboard number 93?