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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 01:42 PM
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"This bad faith analysis runs through the latest batch of torture memos."
Wednesday, April 22, 2009

How We Know that the OLC Torture Memos were Not Issued in "Good Faith"

Brian Tamanaha

When determining whether a potential criminal suspect has violated the law, would you rely entirely upon the assurances of that person that he did not commit the crime?

Of course not! Any lawyer who does this would prima facie be acting in bad faith. The recently released torture memos do precisely that.

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This is manifestly bad faith analysis because, as these statements make clear, the OLC lawyers had no independent factual basis for rendering their legal opinion. The OLC legal opinion, to put it more bluntly, is grounded entirely upon the self-severing assertions of individuals potentially subject to criminal liability.

This passage from the 10 March memo is even more explicit:

This possibility (that sleep deprivation reduces pain tolerance) suggests that use of extended sleep deprivation in combination with other techniques might be more likely than the separate use of the techniques to place the detainee in a state of severe physical distress and, therefore, that the detainee might be more likely to experience severe physical suffering. However, you (CIA) have informed us that the interrogation techniques at issue would not be used during a course of extended sleep deprivation with such frequency and intensity as to induce in the detainee a persistent condition of extreme physical distress such as may constitute ‘severe physical suffering’ within the meaning of sections 2340-2340A.

The OLC thus issued a legal opinion sanctioning the legality of these interrogation practices based entirely upon the promise of the potential criminal suspects that they would not violate the law when engaging in these practices.

What’s bizarre about the analysis is that the CIA purports to be asking the OLC for an opinion about whether the interrogation practices are legal, whereupon the OLC concludes that they are “not illegal” by pointing to the assurances of the CIA that they inflict a level of suffering that falls short of the legal limits. It’s a perfect, and perfectly empty, circle.

This bad faith analysis runs through the latest batch of torture memos.

A crucial difference must be noted between the objection raised here and criticisms of the infamous Bybee/Yoo torture memo that defined “severe suffering” as equivalent to organ failure or death. Supporters who defended that memo as a “good faith” exercise in legal reasoning (however badly flawed) could at least point to a margin of uncertainty that exists with respect to legal analysis.

The problem identified in this post is not about legal uncertainty at all. It raises the distinct point that there was no independent or reliable factual basis to support the legal opinion. Without such a factual basis, the legal opinion simply could not be issued in good faith.

(Addendum: One final point should be made in response to comments in connection with the previous post. The torture memos subtly shift from the “severe suffering” aspect of the statute to the “intentional infliction” aspect. The OLC lawyers reason, time and again, that the presence of medical personnel at the interrogation sessions is compelling evidence that that there was no “intent to inflict” severe suffering. According to this argument, the care the CIA took to protect the prisoners from severe suffering defeats the intent element of the anti-torture statute. (The surreal part of this argument is that, as we now know, the limits were in fact exceeded.)

This reasoning too fails, and for a simple reason that can be demonstrated with waterboarding. If waterboarding inflicts “severe physical or mental suffering,” then the intention element is necessarily satisfied whenever a prisoner was waterboarded (unless the prisoner was accidentally strapped to the board, a wet towel accidentally shoved in his mouth, and a continuous stream of water accidentally poured on his face). The presence of a “medical officer” watching it happen does not negate the intent to waterboard the prisoner. If keeping a prisoner continuously awake for 180 hours, chained in an upright position, inflicts “severe physical or mental suffering,” then the intention element is satisfied by keeping the prisoner in that condition. It doesn’t matter that medical officer came by to check every now and then.

Second addendum: On a different aspect of questions surrounding torture, Bernard Harcourt uses the latest batch of memos to demonstrate the flaws in arguments that torture should be “legalized but regulated.” Although I find Harcourt’s analysis persuasive, my objection is simpler: torture is a horrific act that destroys human dignity and therefore should not be legalized.)




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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 02:33 PM
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1. Definitely a worthwhile read...
Mr. Tamanaha lays out the flaws in the OLC memos wrt being "issued in good faith" in clear, understandable terms.

Thanks for posting this, it is much appreciated.

Recommended.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 10:18 AM
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6. Agree. n/t
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 03:25 PM
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2. There is no such thing...

There is no such thing as Torturing "in Good Faith"
Torture is a crime,
even if you have a note from your lawyer.(OLC)

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yowzayowzayowza Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 04:02 PM
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3. "self-severing assertions" LOL. n/t
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genna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 05:59 PM
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4. It is one thing to know in your gut and be paranoid
but it is another thing to read this b.s. and know they thought through all of this heinous stuff. They are still trying to justify this and snow us. WTF?

I almost want to stick my head back into the sand rather than know the nauseating details.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 08:09 PM
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5. Kick for the night crowd
:kick:
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 07:15 PM
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7. Military agency warned Bush administration in 2002 that its interrogation program was ‘torture.’

Military agency warned Bush administration in 2002 that its interrogation program was ‘torture.’

In a July 2002 document uncovered by the Washington Post, the military's Joint Personnel Recovery Agency warned that the Bush administration’s interrogation program was “torture” and that it would produce “unreliable information.” JPRA is the military agency that ran the program known as Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Escape (SERE), “which trains pilots and others to resist hostile questioning.” JPRA warned in the 2002 document:

The unintended consequence of a U.S. policy that provides for the torture of prisoners is that it could be used by our adversaries as justification for the torture of captured U.S. personnel.



Sen. Carl Levin (D-Mich.), the chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, said he believed the attachment was deliberately ignored and perhaps suppressed. Excerpts from the document appeared in a report on the treatment of detainees released this month by Levin's committee. The committee report says the attachment echoes JPRA warnings issued in late 2001.

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