Looks like they might make Rice the scapegoat

[BadDog40]

Top story on FAUX NEWS:

Waterboarding OK'd by Rice

WASHINGTON -- As national security adviser to former President George W. Bush, Condoleezza Rice verbally approved the CIA's request to subject alleged Al Qaeda terrorist Abu Zubaydah to waterboarding in July 2002, the earliest known decision by a Bush administration official to OK use of the simulated drowning technique.

Rice's role was detailed in a narrative released Wednesday by the Senate Intelligence Committee. It provides the most detailed timeline yet for how the CIA's harsh interrogation program was conceived and approved at the highest levels in the Bush White House.

The new timeline shows that Rice played a greater role than she admitted last fall in written testimony to the Senate Armed Services Committee.

more at (warning, fox news link) http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/04/22/timeline-released-senate-shows-condoleezza-rice-okd-waterboarding/

[NanceGreggs]

1. "The new timeline shows that Rice played a greater role ...

... than she admitted."

Oh, my, what a fuckin' surprise.

[deminks]

2. Who could have imagined

that Condi approved torture? No one could have anticipated this./sarcasm off.

[Norquist Nemesis]

3. Looks like her reward was SoS, and still as incompetent as ever! n/t

[bottomtheweaver]

4. Wow. After all that devotion too.

What a sad sad story. As if Rice ever had any real power.

[Hardrada]

5. She spent all those years wandering around on the Earth and

threatening other nations and peoples and ignominy will be her reward. She never had any notion of diplomacy.

[EFerrari]

6. It's beginning to look deliberate. This morning it was Tenet

and he never really had that much power. Tomorrow, it'll be Brownie.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

26. By next week it will be Lex Luthor. nt

[bklyncowgirl]

13. Condi was devoted to Bush--not Cheney and Rumsfelld

They'd throw her under the bus in a heartbeat.

[ShortnFiery]

15. Not unlike Colin Powell? If you're not one of the "good ole WHITE boys" prepare to be ...

thrown under the proverbial BushBot Bus. :(

[genna]

22. Well this is the avowed inequality people on the right.

Why not toss in Condi first because Colin Powell has some kind of memo exonerating him/get out of jail free card? Condi believed every free and equal meme the Republicans have set out.

[SamCooke]

7. I always thought she had the best heart out of the bunch

I could've been wrong.I find it funny how everyone knows Bush didn't think of these things by himself. We automatically look for the thinkers of his administration.

[ShortnFiery]

16. Yes, out in NY City shopping for designer shoes while New Orleans was a fish tank was ...

real CLASSY of the lady. :eyes:

[MrSlayer]

8. Would be nice if she flipped on them.

She'll never flip on her "husband" but I'll bet she hates Cheney and the others who most likely treated her like a servant.

[elleng]

10. Yes yes yes!

Rummy's the one (or number 2.)

:bounce:

[polichick]

28. Her comments since leaving office have been measured and fair toward Obama...

So, who knows? Maybe she realizes they'd throw her to the wolves, and she'll beat 'em to it.

[elleng]

9. Why not?

They did it to Janis Karpinski.

Note that Zelikow seemed to indicate that 'they' tried to get rid of it, after her 'new' job, anyway.

[napi21]

11. Never forget about the wrath of a woman scorned!

I know Condi and Shrub have been close for a long time, but surprising things happen when someone gets sold out! I don't think it would be easy for her, but I do believe personal survival would prevail. We'll see.

[remember2000forever]

14. Oh Please, Please. Write a Tell-All Book Condi !

[ecstatic]

25. Is she a scorpio? If so, watch out! nt

[WeDidIt]

12. There's not going to be a single scapegoat

The only one whio may possibly miss out on prosecution could be Bush himself.

And the only way that will happen is if he claims insanity, because most people would believe he went insane during that period.

[MADem]

17. I'm betting that the first one who dies takes the lion's share of the blame!

Best way to do it is to screw over someone who can't pipe up and defend themself!

[leftofthedial]

18. they're all guilty as sin

[Soylent Brice]

19. here's another rec.

this shit should be on the greatest by now.

[genna]

20. OP why did FAUX news highlight Rice in that piece?

"Tenet wrote in his memoir that CIA officers themselves originated the idea.

In May 2002, Rice, along with then-Attorney General John Ashcroft and White House counsel Alberto Gonzales met at the White House with the CIA to discuss the use of waterboarding."


There is no way at this point to scapegoat the black people (Powell included) even if Faux or any other RW outlet wants to sell their dedicated 25 to 30% that angle (like the poor non Whites were given all those homes they couldn't afford by the Democrats story).

I believe Powell and Rice should be prosecuted or given clemency along with everyone else if it comes to that. But there is no way in hell Tenet, Ashcroft, and Gonzales don't deserve a front row seat to the scapegoating train the RW is coming up with. Why not point out Rumsfeld and Cheney if they want to highlight differences in approach?

It also seems to me that the RW realizes that this behavior demands some accountability like Abu Gharab. Please tell me how those soldiers deserved more punishment than their leaders who ordered them to do it?

[Vinca]

21. They believe - and probably rightly so - that Condi voted for Obama.

She's not really "one of them," so she'll be the sacrificial lamb.

[stillcool]

23. Won't work..she's barely mentioned..

in the Armed Services Report, but if you spread out the blame you limit the focus on any one person. "They all did it"...so it's nobody's fault.

[ecstatic]

24. What about Gonzalez?

:shrug: None of that shit would have been possible without his OK.

[Jennicut]

27. As much as I cannot stand Condi she is being used to take the fall for Cheney

Cheney is the key player here. Look what he did do make the so called intelligence in Iraq fit into the meme he wanted. He probably pressured her to approve of it. This all leads back to him. He is the most evil bastard in an administration that was full of bad guys.

[BadDog40]

31. I agree, all signs point to Cheney

I really could give a fuck about Bush at this point, but I would love nothing more than to see Cheney fall for this.

[11 Bravo]

29. For a Repuke that's a two-fer ... hang it on a woman AND a minority.

(Not that I have the slightest bit of sympathy for Condosleeza.)

[Peacetrain]

30. That crossed my mind first thing this AM when I turned on the news. and it was Condi Condi Condi

on all stations.

[Bluenorthwest]

32. A scape goat? She is the 'no one could have ever imagined'

woman...she's the one who ordered waterboarding with her own voice. She is the one who told our nation we were in peril of atomic bomb attacks.
Just because she is not the only guilty party does not make her clean. A scape goat is not a sullied sacrifice, but a clean one. You can not be both guilty and a scapegoat. I'd go with the term 'fallguy' but in no way should she be seen as innocent. Because she is not innocent.

[AtomicKitten]

33. She's complicit - not a scapegoat. n/t

[msanthrope]

34. And those she is complict with are offering her up...lie down

with dogs, wake up with fleas.....

[AtomicKitten]

35. It appears the entire crew stepped in it.

I think it is AWESOME that Junior and especially Shooter have been on the tee-vee rationalizing their torture program in the process admitting their guilt.

Talking about slam dunk ...