Dupe re Lieberman-Graham-MCain Letter

[nomaco-10]

There's already a post up with a link. Sorry.



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Lieberliar on Fux a short while ago. He, Lindsay Graham and John McCain have written a letter to the president urging him to put a stop any investigations regarding torture.

If ct elects him again, I'll be shocked. He should have been dealt with back in january.

[AtomicKitten]

1. Their entire premise for the Iraq war has gone poof! n/t

[Botany]

2. torture people so they would give you "something" so you can then

... lie to start a war and they want a pass on this?

fuck em.

[fasttense]

3. Why didn't they send a letter to the bush when he prosecuted

personnel of the 372nd Military Police Company of the United States Army for torture at Abu Ghraib?

The convicted enlisted personnel worked together with other government agencies. (These additional agencies have been referred to as the OGA, which is an often-used euphemism for the Central Intelligence Agency.)

Seems to me those convicted at Abu Ghraib needed McCain's and Graham's help and protection even more than these CIA agents. I guess there are 2 standards. One for Army enlisted personnel and one for CIA agents.

[dgibby]

4. Bingo!

Seems to me it's time to reassess the punishment, scapegoating of these people, including Janis Karpinski. If the CIA isn't going to be held accountable because they were "just following orders", then neither should the military. Nothing like the old double standard.

[Supersedeas]

5. But wasn't McCain a signatory to the Senate Armed Services Committee Report

Did he bother to read it? What could be more clear!!!

Especially see: p146 of the Report.

"The date of the Chairman's approval (and possibly that of the Deputy DoD General Counsel) occurred after the Office of Legal Counsel (OLC) at the Department of Justice withdrew its March 14, 2003 legal memo upon which DoD had been relying for interrogation techniques. The OLC's notification of DoD General Counsel Jim Haynes of that withdrawal occurred between December 25 and December 31, 2003. Mr. Haynes told the Committee that "the fact that the Department didn't have that opinion to rely on....didn't mean that Mr. Dell'Orto or somebody....could not concluded that something was legal in the absence of the memo."

Not only was Yoo's memo legally defective, but even after it was rescinded, William Haynes, Eliana Davidson, and Daniel Dell'Orto continued to recommend approval of interrogation techniques after December 31, 2003.

This thing was a go no matter what US Navy lawyers said, no matter what US Marine, Air Force, and Army lawyers said, no matter what CITF lawyers said, no matter what FBI lawyers said, and ultimately no matter what the OLC lawyers had to say once the Yoo memos were rescinded.

What a zoo! And the media (with very VERY rare exceptions) wants to divert attention ANYWHERE and to ANYTHING except to the SUBSTANCE of the SENATE Armed Services Committee Report -- WHICH IS DAMNING.

And McCain, John the Maverick McCain, OF ALL PEOPLE!!