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snowdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 09:03 AM
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Obama labels his agenda the NEW FOUNDATION.......

but I agree with Dionne---it does not have a certain jingle to it. IMHO






http://voices.washingtonpost.com/postpartisan/2009/04/new_foundations_and_obamas_sty.html?hpid=opinionsbox1

New Foundations and Obama's Style


By E.J. Dionne | April 29, 2009; 8:51 PM ET

A few things became clear quickly at President Obama's news conference tonight. First, the administration really is pushing hard to get his program labeled the "New Foundation." Obama used that magical phrase right off in his opening statement. It's a reach for history: First came the New Deal, then the Fair Deal, then the New Frontier, followed by the Great Society. Labels of this sort seem to be a Democratic thing (although Teddy Roosevelt may have kicked it all off with his Square Deal). Bill Clinton tried for a while to sell the idea of a New Covenant, but it didn't take off.

The New Foundation has a couple of things going for it, notably that it can have both an innovative edge and a conservative feel. It means real change, since it implies rebuilding from the bottom up -- changing the way we organize our financial system, provide health care, use energy and educate ourselves. But building a foundation is the most basic and cautious act of all. Architects rarely brag about the foundations of their buildings. Foundations aren't about glitter. They're about the essentials.

Still, I wonder if the New Foundation has the same crisp feel of the New Deal or the romance of the New Frontier. For one thing, it's a mouthful of syllables. It does sound a little bit like a reference to a basement. I'm still not convinced it will stick.
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JaneQPublic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 09:18 AM
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1. As Harry Belafonte once said...
"House built on a weak foundation
Will not stand oh no"

"House built on a rock foundation
It will stand oh yes"

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snowdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 10:02 AM
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2. maybe the "Rock Foundation"??,,,,,,,,,,,,

actually, I think it is the word foundation I am opposed to. ITs to long--not catchy and besides, it sounds like a philanthropy.
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JaneQPublic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 12:04 PM
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15. Hehe. Good one! (nt)
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canadianbeaver Donating Member (929 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 10:34 AM
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8. Shouldn't that be....
"House built on Barack foundation?.....It will stand oh Yes we can...lol
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 10:06 AM
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3. "New Foundation has the same crisp feel of the New Deal or the romance of the New Frontier"
Edited on Thu Apr-30-09 10:07 AM by ClarkUSA
It does. I like it's simple elegance, which is evocative of Pres. Obama's governing approach itself. It's not hokey or overwrought,
like "The Third Way" or "Council For A New America", etc. As a millenial, I tend to embrace its relevant symbolic imagery.

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snowdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 10:13 AM
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4. I disagree, I see no elgance in a flat word such as foundation
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 10:27 AM
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5. I said "New Foundation" had a simple elegance to it, evocative of Pres. Obama governing style.
I prefer simple strong language that is symbolic of the troubled times we're in versus more flowery phrases. But that's just me.

It's okay to disagree, of course.


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snowdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 01:35 PM
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17. Thanks,..
yes, we can respectfully disagree. I am not for flowery phrases but I have explained why I do not like the word foundation,
best.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 10:31 AM
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6. There's a big surprise
:eyes:
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 10:32 AM
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7. Isaac Aasimov Would Like It!
n/t
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 10:50 AM
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10. dammit now i have to read those again... damn you....
:hi:
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 11:19 AM
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11. Like That's A Chore!
Love that series!
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 11:26 AM
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12. I wonder if Barack ever read The Foundation Series, being a Star Trek fan and all...
Edited on Thu Apr-30-09 11:27 AM by ClarkUSA
Hmm... now that's a press conference question that'll never be asked. ;)


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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 12:08 PM
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16. Oh boy, my Dad is a huge Sci Fi fan and read those books.
He tried to pass them onto me but I like thrillers and political stuff better.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 10:40 AM
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9. yea, we need that jingle
:sarcasm:
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 11:30 AM
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13. "New Democrats" = "third way". nt
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 11:34 AM
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14. So will there be a Second New Foundation who secretly control the New Foundation?
And will the First New Foundation try to exterminate it?

Jut saying, I'd be down for that, as long as we get to find Earth in the end.

(nerd references out the wazoo)
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 02:00 PM
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18. Solid as Barack.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 02:23 PM
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19. He ought be careful.
Edited on Thu Apr-30-09 02:24 PM by Occam Bandage
While Hari Seldon can predict broad trends quite well, it is impossible to predict the influence or actions of particular extraordinary individuals. I should hope Obama does not fall into the trap of simply assuming everything will work out as Seldon foresaw, lest his New Foundation find itself dealing with the threat of the Mule with no concept of how to fight him, and with the blind belief that it was all part of Seldon's plan tying their hands until the crisis threatens the existence of New Foundation itself..
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