Ed Shultz--- Obama saying "Mistake" was smart.

[vaberella]

I say watch the Ed Shultz show he was talking about the "mistake" comment in regards too the question about torture and if the Bush admin committed a crime.

I think this should go to video more than me writing about it. Shultz said this move by the President states, "he washes his hands of the issue and goes straight to Eric Holder."

So he can focus on the issues facing us.

[firedupdem]

1. I agree with Ed's take. n/t

[vaberella]

2. Agreed. n/t

[AtomicKitten]

26. Me too. n/t

[graywarrior]

3. From what I understand, it is not up to Obama to do anything about this

Why should he make a statement? It's up to the justice department and eventually congress. Correct me if I am wrong, me not being a constitutional law expert.

[vaberella]

9. You're not wrong. But people like Turley and "Constitutional lawyers" on DU

say the President has to make a statement and/or be more "aggressive" to get this to move forward.

[graywarrior]

10. Maybe he's waiting til he knows more.

:shrug:

[vaberella]

15. Most people think O is God and "knows" already.

Most people want swift and rapid action and who gives a flying f* to consequences or the bits we don't know about. Most don't even want to admit that the information O knows is definitely different from what we know and most definitely what Turley knows. It's like there's no recognition that, yes O has proposed Transparency, but it's not 100%. I think he's dealing with domestic and foreign issues and some of the domestic issues like health care and infrastructure, the banks, and manufacturing issues that these legal matters are probably last on his list and up to the AG. But they don't care.

[graywarrior]

28. Yep

[jillan]

4. I'm so glad he is saying this.

I agree with him 100%.

[Phx_Dem]

5. I absolutely agree with Ed. The President should not butt in

to legal matters before they've been investigated or tried in a court of law. That's what we have a justice system for.

[lamp_shade]

6. I've heard this analysis several times today. I agree wholeheartedly.

[polichick]

7. Ed was so excited about that "brilliant" move - it really is worth seeing!

[vaberella]

12. I think people are realizing that O is playing a complex game with

the Repubs and making sure his agenda gets through.

[theoldman]

8. Obama knows better than to micromanage.

One person cannot do everything. If you have more than one head in the noose, the rope may break when it's hanging time.

[vaberella]

11. Agreed. n/t

[Clio the Leo]

13. I was surprised to hear him say that....

... as I thought he was pretty hard core wanting prosecution ASAP.

And I'll chime in w/everyone else and say I agree too.

[jenmito]

19. He DOES want prosecutions. But he knows that having Obama come out and call it a crime before

Holder finishes the investigation is NOT the way to go about it. This way Obama gets to "look forward" while others like Holder look back. People like Olbermann, Maddow and Turley want the instant gratification of hearing Obama SAY torture is a crime. Obama's smarter than that.

[jenmito]

14. Yes-he thought it was a perfect answer! "Could you imagine what would've happened

if he said it was a crime? That's all everyone would be talking about! With his statement that waterboarding is torture, we will not torture, and it was a mistake, he washed his hands of it so Holder can deal with it while HE deals with healthcare and everything else he wants to get done." (paraphrased)

[vaberella]

20. can I put it on my edit of post Jen? n/t

[jenmito]

23. Sure, but it's just a paraphrase. n/t

[jenmito]

16. I hope Keith, Rachel, Chris and Jonathan Turley were listening! n/t

[StrongBad]

17. This is the first episode of the show I've seen and the first time I've heard Ed speak.

I found myself nodding in agreement with his assessment of the situation.

I think MSNBC made a good choice.

[vaberella]

18. Yup. I heart his show. n/t

[Cha]

25. My son likes him

too from Kauai.

[firedupdem]

21. I really like his show. He makes a lot of sense to me and he

covers a lot of issues. Tonight he's covered torture, Chrysler, Dumb as fox, and that idiot Foxx woman.

[ClarkUSA]

22. Sure it was. The President cannot be judge and jury in a specific instance. Some don't get it...

... but Ed does. And so do those of us who didn't bash Pres. Obama on this issue from the beginning for this very legal reason.

[Hekate]

24. KnR. I agree with Ed, and have had my fingers crossed that this is going to work out. nt

[1776Forever]

27. Catch Ed's Show on his site a few days after it is on MSNBC - Link:

http://www.bigeddieradio.com/videoblog/

and here: http://www.bigeddieradio.com/archive/theedshow/

Also check out MSNBC Ed Show site:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30031533

......

I have been a fan of Ed's for over 4 years now. I have had many of my emails read on his show. Ed listens to the real people!

Go Big Eddie!!! Gooooooooooo!



:woohoo: :applause: :woohoo: :applause: :woohoo: :applause: :woohoo:

[chill_wind]

29. And he (Pres Obama) said unequivocally it was torture.

No euphemisms. No sugar-coating. No "harsh interrogations". He was explicit. I don't know that any more can be asked of him on the question at this point: The criminal implications put the ball now more solidly than ever in AG Holder's court. And Congress's. That's the way it should work.

[jillan]

30. Ed has been the lone voice of sanity today.

[Captain Hilts]

31. That's what Michael Vick said. He said the dog torture farm he had was a 'mistake'. No, it wasn't.

[glowing]

32. I've watched Pres. Obama enough. His "mistake" tone was not a

mistake like the kids forgot to take out the dog.. it was a "mistake" that would have to be remedied at some point, but not by him. AND it shouldn't. Its for the justice dept. He doesn't need to be in the middle of that crap.

[Nancy Waterman]

33. Obama has created a clear boundary between his role and Justice's

One of the biggest problems with Bush was he had no boundaries: justice mixed with politics; religion mixed with policy; church mixed with state; ideology confused with facts on the ground; etc. Obama drew a very clear line last night between what the presidential role is and what the Justice Dept role it. Obama kept to morality and what the deeper meaning of America is about: who we are and what we stand for. He made clear his intent for current policy. But he is leaving it to Holder to determine the legal issues. Obama chose his words very carefully and used no legal terms at all, despite the attempts of the questioners to draw him in. I was thrilled to hear Ed tonight because he understands this. Rachel and Keith both missed the point last night and really don't get how important it is for the health of the country to draw this boundary.

And by the way, I can't tell you all how grateful I was to come on here and see how many of you saw exactly what I did last night and now again tonight on this issue. I don't post much anymore what with my own blog elsewhere, but it really warmed my heart.

[Vinca]

34. Ed made me see the comment in a new light and it makes sense.

I must say, I'm totally hooked on the "Ed Show."

[Nancy Waterman]

35. I adore Rachel

but I really disagree with her and Keith on this one. And I am far more interested in watching Ed now.
He really nailed it.