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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 01:29 PM
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What's the purpose of allowing photos of flag-draped coffins of US troops to be published?
Edited on Wed May-13-09 01:29 PM by rateyes
Well, that's the reason for releasing the Gitmo interrogation photos, as well.
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 01:30 PM
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1. I'm sure photos of coffins will inflame many in the Middle East and put our troops at further risk.
Great analogy.



Not.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 01:31 PM
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2. Why didn't you just post this to the thread you are replying to?
Edited on Wed May-13-09 01:45 PM by ZombieHorde
eta: Sorry, I know see many posters are doing what you did and I am familiar with the bandwagon effect.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 01:46 PM
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3. Photos of flag-draped coffins to honor the soldiers and their families
GItmo photos - hopefully evidence for a trial.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 01:49 PM
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4. Are those photos FICTION? Are we so chicken-shit as a nation that we can't accept
responsibility and TAKE ACTION to make sure this does not happen again?

The REASON these photos will not become public is that IF they were released the Justice Department would feel goosed to actually DO THEIR JOB = Investigate and Prosecute. The People would DEMAND it.

It's the fear of prosecutions and lost House/Senate seats that WHY we are not seeing these photos and it's VILE.

If this is swept under the carpet, God have mercy on our souls should another right-wing republican Administration move into The Executive Branch. :scared:
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 01:50 PM
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5. I agree with you.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 01:57 PM
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7. This "holding back photos" to protect the troops is A BIG LIE.
The Troops are already in WAR ZONES. Our illustrious "smart bombs" are ... well NOT SO SMART.

The people of both Nations already DEPLORE THE INVADERS with every damn fiber of their being.

It has reached maximum saturation.

WE ARE THE EMPIRE. IRAQIS AND AFGHANIS ALREADY DESPISE US ... ALL OF US.

It's beyond time to bring the troops home but the ruling elites of this Nation will not admit that we have already lost these wars. ASSHOLES! :grr:


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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 02:00 PM
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8. I'm right there with you. nt
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 02:04 PM
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13. I'm saddened. We've got another "moderate right" corporate guy in the WH.
I fear "the fix is in." :(

In today's Corporate United States of America, the wealthy and/or connected do not pay for their crimes. Hell, they'll re-write the law like their HEROES on Wall Street and make Torture and Endless War Legal. :crazy:

Obama? He won't stop it ... more STATUS QUO. :puke:
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 02:09 PM
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17. Should have voted for Nader! That would have done the trick.
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 01:52 PM
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6. Maybe it is because some in power actually worry about the repercussions that our troops will face.
us sitting in our comfortable homes back stateside have little to worry about if these photos are ever released. Our men and women thousands of miles away aren't so lucky.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 02:00 PM
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9. Bullshit! They are thinking about themselves and their political positions
Edited on Wed May-13-09 02:01 PM by ShortnFiery
... nothing more.

Do you think that these MILLIONAIRES give a damn about the poor bloody infantry? Really? :eyes:

What we will see is what OUR LEADERS ordered the troops to do.

The LEADERS (Military and Political) are responsible for these atrocities and must be held to account.

Obama is enabling The Bush Administration to "white wash" WAR CRIMES.

I'm beyond disgusted. :(
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 02:02 PM
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11. How about you go over on the front lines when these photos are released and defend your position.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 02:07 PM
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14. I'll tell you what? Where's your DD 214? I haven't served in a war zone but I've served.
So stop the damn bravado. It falls on deaf ears. A friend of mine's son is now serving in iraq after spending most of a year recovering from wounds from an IED.

I live in a military community, I've served my country on active duty and communicate with those who have served over in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Therefore, all that swaggering on your part doesn't impress me much.

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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 02:09 PM
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15. Good for you. I trust you understand just how damaging these photos will be for your fellows on the
ground over there.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 02:14 PM
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18. No, it will be NO MORE DAMAGING for the troops themselves, but it may get their SUPERIORS
in a whole hell of va lot of trouble. This move is NOT for the troop's safety.

What part of *WAR ZONE* is more or less intense?

Americans and the few coalition troops left in Afghanistan are already FULLY HATED as "The Invaders" - Nothing that we can do other than pull out of those Nations will win any RESPECT from the natives.

IMO, they could NOT hate us more: We installed a puppet government in Kabul and are bombing their villiages. No, the HATE is real and extra photos won't make any difference.



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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 02:09 PM
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16. p.s. Front Lines?!?
:wtf: This is unconventional warfare, i.e., there ARE no "front lines" OR no "rear with the gear" either.

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SpartanDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 02:02 PM
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10. What repercussions?
they already being shot at and bombed can you really piss these people off anymore?
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 02:02 PM
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12. Yeah, actually, you can.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 02:19 PM
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19. No, but you can get "the leaders" to be forced to EXPLAIN the orders that lead
to these atrocities. These are not just "a few bad apples" but a massive collusion of military and civilian authorities during the COMMISSION OF WAR CRIMES.

We are covering our leader's asses and this is very dangerous. The next time torture might extend to US Citizens. :scared:

Would you rather be UNCOMFORTABLE now and make those responsible stand up to their horrid acts? Or would you rather "hush this up" and hope that NO other right-wing republican ever reclaims the Executive Branch?
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 02:21 PM
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20. Hey, it's an imperial military. Isn't that what they signed the f*ck up for?
Edited on Wed May-13-09 02:22 PM by Better Believe It
If they don't face any danger why the hell are they armed to the teeth .... because pictures might be released?

Come on.

The troops aren't doing me any favors or representing and defending me in Iraq or Afghanistan.

They aren't heros.

They aren't defending freedom or my civil liberties.

They aren't spreading democracy.

At best, they are mere cannon fodder who have lost their lives or may be wounded in vain.

So why the hell should we conceal any torture or other terrorist type activity they and their military and political leaders may have engaged in?
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