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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 07:29 PM
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Won't release photos because...
...he is worried about our troop safety yet he escalates Afghanistan and were still in Iraq.

Go fucking figure.

Between this and no single-payer at the table... I have just about had it.





:grr:
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 07:31 PM
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1. Oh well. Then you've had it. He told you throughout the campaign his plan for Afganistan
And he never said he was for Single Payer.

So go fucking figure
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 07:33 PM
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2. Yeah...WTF was I thinking...
...actually believing he would be listening to the will of the people.

My bad.
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 07:37 PM
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3. Yep.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 07:38 PM
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4. You're the one whos making it seem like he's doing things differently
than what he promised. He told you his plan for Afghanistan and Healthcare.
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 07:40 PM
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5. We are his boss


Don't forget that.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 07:42 PM
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8. Yup.
Your point?
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 07:42 PM
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9. Our employee is not listening to us
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 07:44 PM
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11. He's not going to fight a losing battle
which is exactly what Single Payer is.
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 07:45 PM
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12. so says you
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 07:50 PM
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16. So says Reality.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 07:53 PM
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17. You hired him for things you now DON'T want him to do (that he said he'd do) and that's HIS fault?
Edited on Wed May-13-09 07:55 PM by jenmito
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 08:01 AM
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24. never said what?
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ChimpersMcSmirkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 07:40 PM
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6. Yeah, well he campaigned exactly for what's pissing you off.
A slower then your preferred immediate pull out of Iraq. He said he would focus on Afghanistan. He never mentioned or listed single-payer in his platform or on his campaign. You we're already pissed at him before you may have voted for him.

Frankly, I don't need to see any more photos of the US abusing their charges, I've seen it already. I can guess what they show and I've realized that the only thing we're going to get out of it is more pissed off Muslims.
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 07:42 PM
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7. We tell him what to do

Not the other way around.

Both war and private medical insurance are minority opinions and do not reflect "we the people".
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 07:43 PM
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10. Single Payer is not a reality.
Its a big waste of time. There is little support for it in Congress. Its a losing battle.
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 07:45 PM
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13. I lobby them...do you?
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 07:49 PM
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14. Yes. But until there is Campaign Finance Reform
there will be no single payer system. Thats the reality. I heard Bernie Sanders tell Thom Hartman than. The system is setup where they need the money
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ChimpersMcSmirkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 08:04 PM
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19. We'll the public seems to be going along with Obama's Iraq policy.
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/03/poll-americans-overwhelmingly-approve-obamas-iraq-plan.php

I hate health insurance companies and will write congress and the president in support of a public option and insurance industry reform. There is no way though, that the health insurance companies are going away. That's just a dream unfortunately.

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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 07:49 PM
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15. Be mad.
But did you think you would never disagree with a president, this one or any other?
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 08:04 PM
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18. Ha! You should have had it..
during the primaries. A little late to the party, but I appreciate your 'outrage'.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 08:51 PM
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20. Wow - someone mad at a president - who would have thought it!
:sarcasm:
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 08:55 PM
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21. Do you want him to escalate the war in Afghanistan and at the
same time do things to endanger their safety? :shrug: That wouldn't be fair now, would it?
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 06:43 AM
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22. I think the CIA and military leaders sat
Edited on Thu May-14-09 06:46 AM by doc03
Obama down and explained to him who really runs the country. Then you have the Democrats that knew about and approved the torture such as Nancy Pelosi and Jay Rockefeller.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 07:04 AM
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23. Yes, I'm disgusted. We can NOT cover this up. We must DRAW DOWN in both occupied nations
Edited on Thu May-14-09 07:05 AM by ShortnFiery
FIRST and then FULLY PUBLISH the "torture photos" then investigate and prosecute.

These OCCUPATIONS are UN-AMERICAN and against all that we believe in ... hell, we fought a war in the 1940s (remember WWII? :wtf:) to stop the NAZIs from spreading THEIR EMPIRE.

Why are we considered ANY BETTER than Germany of the 1930s-early 1940s?

OUT of both Iraq and Afghanistan NOW! :thumbsup:
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