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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 08:52 PM
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A very interesting article in the NYT Sunday Magazine about National Health Care...
Edited on Wed May-13-09 08:54 PM by WCGreen
In the article, Russell Shorto compares the US health care system to the Dutch. But he takes the obvious argument one step further. He looks at the different ways Americans perceive the world with how the Dutch look at government to explain how we differ.


http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/03/magazine/03european-t.html?pagewanted=1&ref=magazine

So where does this get us? If the collectivist Dutch social system arises from the waters of Dutch history, how applicable is it to American society, which was shaped by the wagon train and the endless frontier? And why would a nation raised on “You can go your own way” and “Be all that you can be” even want to go Dutch?

To the first point, there are notable similarities between the two countries. The Dutch approach to social welfare grew out of its blend of a private-enterprise tradition and a deep religious tradition. The ways in which the United States seeks to fix its social system surely stem from its own strong tradition of religious values, and also from a desire to blend those values with its commitment to private enterprise.

And while I certainly wouldn’t wish the whole Dutch system on the United States, I think it’s worth pondering how the best bits might fit. One pretty good reason is this: The Dutch seem to be happier than we are. A 2007 Unicef study of the well-being of children in 21 developed countries ranked Dutch children at the top and American children second from the bottom. And children’s happiness is surely dependent on adult contentment. I used to think the commodious, built-in, paid vacations that Europeans enjoy translated into societies where nobody wants to work and everyone is waiting for the next holiday. That is not the case here. I’ve found that Dutch people take both their work and their time off seriously. Indeed, the two go together. I almost never get a work-related e-mail message from a Dutch person on the weekend, while e-mail from American editors, publicists and the like trickle in at any time. The fact that the Dutch work only during work hours does not seem to make them less productive, but more. I’m constantly struck by how calm and fresh the people I work with regularly seem to be.



These paragraphs come at the end of the rather long article which, ironically, I read today while waiting to see my doctor. I wanted to present this as the "teaser" in order to draw you in to the whole article. It is interesting to see the differences between the two approaches to government as well as examining the author's take at how the US and Holland came to be and how the approach to social engineering takes root in the two countries origin.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 08:55 PM
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1. on edit: no need to scold. You fixed it.
Edited on Wed May-13-09 08:57 PM by bunnies
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 08:59 PM
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2. I guess Spell check thought I was posting on an obscure American Artist...
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 09:05 PM
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3. Avery is also a label company...
they make blank sticky sheets in label size to print on. :rofl: Funny how words work. (Not snark) :hi:
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 09:47 PM
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4. How fascinating!
My wicked thought runs the way the movie "The Mouse That Roared" did...

Back to reality...

I fear that we as Americans are just too divided politically and culturally to want to try something like this.

But I think some version of this would certainly work.

I'm amused at the clips you chose to post... ;)

K&R

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