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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 07:11 PM
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Richard Wolffe (on KO): "THE TRAP WAS SET YEARS AGO"
According to him those CIA briefings were intentionally vague and purposely held just for this moment ~ so Dems could be blamed too.

My question remains: What are Obama and Congressional Dems waiting for?? SPECIAL PROSECUTOR ASAP
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jbauer_torture Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 07:13 PM
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1. not lying
british guy
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 07:16 PM
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2. Right; ' ?' deniability
they specialize in it.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 07:22 PM
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3.  From being on DU
for so long..I swear there's been a lot of writings over the years on different issues where the repubs could set it up and "blame the Dems".

It's not freaking hard to imagine..and I hope Nancy has the stamina and the gravitas to turn it around and destroy them.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 07:29 PM
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4. Me too - but she'll need a special prosecutor, not a commission.
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 07:34 PM
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5. The IC law is dead....
...so while she could legislatively create the latter, she could only ask for the former.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 07:35 PM
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6. Which is why we need Obama to SNAP OUT OF IT! :)
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 07:37 PM
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7. I want Nancy to sit down to a big serving of scrotum soup and scrotum pie,
Edited on Fri May-15-09 07:38 PM by xultar
after all this shit is done.
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 08:58 PM
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11. She's Gonna Have To Eat Dick Cheney Then! n/t
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 09:01 PM
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14. He has a scrotum?! n/t
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 09:16 PM
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18. Balls O' Rubber My Dear
Bastard sends other peoples kids off to die (including my son to Iraq, he nearly died in that hell hole BTW) but got FIVE, FUCKING FIVE deferments! Coward ass DICK!
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 09:22 PM
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19. NP can't chew on those..they'll give her indigestion. She should pass them over to Reid then. n/t
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 09:00 PM
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12. She does. This was s set up from the Dems from the beginning to me.
Remember when she said..."Take immunity off the table!" For her to say that said to me she was opening the door for backlash. Then she said something along the lines of, "They always come after me, I'm used to it." She's been ready for it and I think she's getting prepped in this. Dude when I look at Pelosi, I think she considers herself Obama's surrogate. So she's ready for anything and this whole thing looks like a well hashed set up to take out the Repubs and make them look bad. To have Bob Graham already on her corner she's opening the doors. I think this might be setting up the stage to have Bob Graham maybe come back into the game---which could be interesting. This whole thing is spinning out of the hands of Repubs and even the CIA and the Pres and his crew got this shit down.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 09:46 PM
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21. Thanks, you
analyze that, nicely.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 08:52 PM
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8. Ask Eric Holder..
there have been numerous requests for him to appoint a Special Prosecutor. I believe it will happen. I don't know why it isn't RIGHT NOW!!!..because I'm not that smart. I'm sure there are plenty of posters here that can tell you exactly what is going on, who is thinking what and why. I even read it's all Rahm Emanuel's doing. I do know my Congressman is involved in investigations..but that obviously is of no concern to anyone.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 08:55 PM
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9. I'm pretty sure he's taking his cue from the president. nt
Edited on Fri May-15-09 08:57 PM by polichick
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 09:14 PM
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17. Do you think timing
is a factor? I know that Holder has been in place for a long time now, but I would think there would be a big pile of shit left over from the Bush administration. Does that matter? Is there a reason why it has to be done right now? Is there any benefit to waiting until the public is more in favor of prosecution? Has Dawn Johnsen been confirmed yet? How do you think these investigations are coordinated with the investigation that my Congressman is involved in. Does that matter?
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 07:15 AM
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22. I think the president wants this to go away, but it won't and Cheney won this round.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 08:57 PM
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10. HELL NO!! NOT ASAP!!!
AG Holder is gathering the information and making sure their case is air tight. You don't jump on this special prosecutor and get bloody no where. We want to go in to win right?! then we do this right...NOT ASAP
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 09:00 PM
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13. It's the special prosecutor's job to gather the information.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 09:03 PM
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15. Not until our AG
decides this should go there. The AG is making the moves and I don't mind this. In any event, everyone said the AG has the right to start the motions and then advise the president. Further more, if the special panel was to be set up that doesn't have to be with the President or the AG...they could start that shit now.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 09:05 PM
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16. A commission? The deal with those is truth finding but no prosecution.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 09:25 PM
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20. Yes, it was set. But still, the Rethugs came up with the idea to torture in the first place.
And they are actually admitting they torture now. It was not torture before but it is now but its okay cause Nance new and so did a bunch of other Dems. Its like, so what? (to quote Dick Cheney).
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 07:17 AM
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23. It's just time for the Dems to stop being wimps and bring these people to justice.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 08:59 AM
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24. I agree wholeheartedly. They have attacked the Dems long enough. Its good
to see Nancy standing up for herself but it took years. I guess she was tired of being a wimp.
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