Freepers: "This problem may just solve itself"

[HopeOverFear]

"We don't need to try to bring Obama down, the liberals will do it for us".

[Gidney N Cloyd]

1. They've been reading our brochure. nt

[AspenRose]

2. "herding cats" "circular firing squad"

Sometimes that's appropriate....

but not when it REALLY matters.

That's what they're hoping for, and they will be disappointed.

"I am not a member of any organized party. I am a Democrat." --Will Rogers

It's been like this for a long time.

[HopeOverFear]

3. and liberals fall for that shit every single time.

[stray cat]

4. sad to say but the GOP does a better job of uniting to get something accomplished

[HopeOverFear]

6. They sure do, and the thing about is, they KNOW what they're uniting behind is a lie

but what matters to them is they do it anyway, no matter WHAT. We have common sense and truth on our side, and we can't get along for shit.

[The Hope Mobile]

27. They're not smart enough to question authority or debate a point

We are and it can be to our detriment

[grantcart]

12. it's easy to get united behind either lust for war or lust for tax reduction

solving actual problems requires patience and nuance, something that will always be acompanied by healthy vigorous debate.

[TTUBatfan2008]

20. I don't think there's anything healthy...

...about accusing the President of attending his daughter's soccer game just so he could have a "photo op." Imagine if the poster who said that held themselves to the same standard they apparently hold Obama to. Never go out in public, or else risk being accused of being an attention whore rather than, you know, doing your parental duty by supporting your child.

[Ikonoklast]

19. Yeah. Look how well that's turning out for them.

Unless you meant uniting the lunatic fringe to drive out all those not deemed 'pure'.

And then destroying their party.

They've done a pretty good job so far.

[hootinholler]

38. Obviously the smaller the group, the easier it is to get them to line up and goose step

:shrug:

-Hoot

[dgibby]

40. Yeah, all two of them.

[PretzelWarrior]

49. bullcrap. they unite to shovel money to their reich buddies and keep things the same.

progress only occurred due to progressives. Women's rights, civil rights for all races, religions, creeds, etc. Gay rights. Environmental protection, etc. Yes, Nixon helped some.........but most Republicans since then have deplorable records on "getting things done".

[AspenRose]

5. I'd like to think we come together when it really matters

This time last year was brutal but we (eventually) came back together for the common good.

(Those who didn't come back, I question whether they were really with us in the first place....)

Infighting (really UGLY infighting) comes with the territory :shrug:

And if they're going by what's going on at DU as a gauge of the Democrats "bringing Obama down," they're REALLY going to be disappointed.

[rug]

15. Not you though? I see.

[depakid]

7. Seeing as how about 1/3 of the Senate leans Republican on key issues

They might be right.

[emulatorloo]

8. Wishful thinking.

Thanks for posting it.

It is good to remember that DU isn't really a microcosm of reality or representative of "real-world" liberals.

[Uzybone]

9. very true...everytime I look out the window

I'm reminded of the fact that there are good liberals who do not say stupid things like Obama=Bush, or Obama/Bush torture policy.

[HopeOverFear]

10. re: Wishful thinking.

It is good to remember that DU isn't really a microcosm of reality or representative of "real-world" liberals.

and Thank God for that.

[Cha]

11. Like bush being his

own worst enemy?

[Lilyeye]

13. My repuke uncle said almost the exact same thing to me yesterday. He must be a member.

[Number23]

14. (Sigh) This is teeth-gnashingly frustrating

I am starting to understand more and more the vast numbers of Americans who have not the first interest in politics or politicians but just live their lives day to day without agonizing over all of this isht.

[Cha]

16. I did it until

2000 and then something changed and I can't let go.

Eight years of not caring and the corporatemedia gave us bush and the war on Iraq..and as you noticed The Perfect Storm made a lot of people care in the 2008 election..


Sometimes I think I'd like to go back to ignorant bliss..

[Number23]

18. I was the same way

Maybe it was because in 2000 I knew my 20's were coming to an end and I thought I needed to be more "grown up" and care about things other than my hair and men. :)

It was no coincidence that 2000 was the year I came to care about politics, start traveling the world and embark upon a career that has allowed me to see damn near everything the world has to offer, good and bad.

I probably couldn't go back to slack-jawed idiot if I wanted to. But DAMN, reading DU some days, I'd sure like to give it a try.

[HopeOverFear]

24. re: I was the same way

I probably couldn't go back to slack-jawed idiot if I wanted to. But DAMN, reading DU some days, I'd sure like to give it a try.

Oh, I could give it more than a try, I believe I can go there again. It's only been about six months that I've been following this thing. I swore after the inauguration that I would leave this place, well I think it's time I lived up to that promise.

[Number23]

25. But your profile says you didn't join until March...???

[HopeOverFear]

17. Exactly.

[Joe the Liberal]

22. Me too.....

Blissful ignorance is tempting.

[jeanpalmer]

21. That's an impossibility

Obama will rise or fall primarily based on the economy. It's on the economy that the middle will either support him or desert him.

People on the left are simply trying to hold him accountable and force him to live up to his promises and to Democratic principles and ideals. They're doing him a favor by letting him know what he has to do to keep their support.

You're equating criticism with lack of support. They're not the same.

[Bluerthanblue]

23. sadly possible-

if we don't start putting the anger where it rightfully belongs-

:shrug:

[NYC_SKP]

26. The proof of that is in many DU threads.

Sometimes the Freepers are right.

Threads have been locked for challenging other OPs and replies calling out Obama without being constructively critical.

I thought that constructive criticism was allowed, but this past week dozens and dozens of unconstructive bashings remain undeleted.

How very sad, but it's true, we eat our own.

[TwilightZone]

31. Nah, DU isn't indicative of the real world.

What happens here really doesn't affect or represent more than a small subset of Democrats. In the real world, his support is very strong among both self-described Democrats and self-described liberals.

The DU wars may get some attention by the right-wingers, but the majority of voters generally couldn't care less.

For that, we should probably be thankful. :)

[Orsino]

44. A liberal-leaning board is going to get around to criticizing *any* politicians...

...that make it through the modern American electoral process. It's not that we lefties eat our own, but that "our own" are almost never elected to office, and the nasty compromises forced on would-be leaders are corrupting.

Obama isn't "our own" president--he's just as close as any is likely to come. The sad state of American politics is forcing the worst of compromises on him.

[lunatica]

28. Oh Crap! They're onto us!

Yeah sure. They don't get it that we can disagree with something the President does without 'bringing him down'. Idiots

[AwakeAtLast]

29. Hey Freepers! Stop showing us your PLAYBOOK!

Textbook case of the GOP-downfall flee flicker in that last election. We don't need it, thanks. :eyes:

[progressoid]

30. The problem with liberals is too much thinking. We should just swallow what ever the party gives us

like Republicans do?

[Lorien]

32. We liberals appear to have little power within our own party

The next election is Obama's to win or lose. He can fight for the American people most of the time, or he can fight for the corporate elite most of the time; one path would be in keeping with his campaign promises, the other would be in keeping with BushCo's policies. I guess we will have to wait and see who wins the most ground over the next year or two.

[stillcool]

34. actually 'we the people'...

have little power in our political system. What's worse any power we do have we freely hand over to those we elect every two years, and the media.. who we allow to fill our days with bullshit. Does anyone really care at this point, if Obama is re-elected in 2012? Is that what people are concerned with? I guess people don't have much of a life to concern themselves with.

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[Tarheel_Dem]

35. Wow. They must watch Rachel Maddow.

:rofl:

[jgraz]

36. No, freepers, like many on this board, can't handle having their beliefs challenged

They tend to just post gratuitous non sequitur slams with laughing smilies in the message body.

[glitch]

37. Divide and conquer.

This example isn't bad for a "freeper".

[rucky]

39. Let them continue to think that "useful idiots" will do their bidding for them.

They may be disappointed by the results.

[butterfly77]

41. The reason for that is that...

liberals usually run off half cocked instead of looking ahead. They have been out their just like republiCONS before day one wanting everything done even before a hundred days..

[sniffa]

42. Fat chance

Liberals don't even get a seat at the table.

[and-justice-for-all]

43. It will call come down.....

in 8 years.

[BlooInBloo]

45. Certainly that would make a lot of DUers happy.

[Sugarcoated]

46. They say those things

no matter what's going on. Things are different in these post-Bush days. He may lose some far lefties, true, but he's got the middle, and most Democrats, even a whole lot of moderate Republicans.

[Canuckistanian]

47. Ha! Liberals don't even HAVE enough power to get people in on roundtable discussions

How the hell could they take Obama down?

[krawhitham]

48. I don't belong to an organized political party. I'm a Democrat.

[Forkboy]

50. We should all go over there and cherry pick some lines...

...seeing as though the Freepers are now a source of political wisdom for us to listen to.

[Raine]

51. Proof that RWing Nuts have absolutely no understanding

of liberals whatsoever, they're the ones who take their own down and eat them alive. :rofl:

[HamdenRice]

52. I'm old enough to have seen the "out there" wing of the party do it to Carter, then to Clinton

then Al ("same as Bush") Gore, and they'll do it to Obama. Happens every time. In fact, you can go back as far as Humphrey's run in 68.

I'm not sure what to call the "wing" because it's not exactly "left", but more like "unrealistically purist" or maybe the "Naderists."

They wound the party leader's standing so badly, that even an unpopular Repug party can knock him off.

Considering that this "Naderist wing" of the Democrats could knock of Carter just a few years after Watergate, you can see that as bad shape as the Repugs are in now, these same forces can weaken Obama enough to let some idiot like Palin in by 2012.

[rug]

53. If Palin wins in 2012 you'll need a larger net than "unrealistically purist".

[HopeOverFear]

54. Now that is a damned shame

"I don't care if Republicans win 4 years from now, I refuse to support Obama until he does everything I want." for some on the far left, the Republicans are the devil they know.

[iamthebandfanman]

56. wtf are you talking about?

lefties didnt do anything to any of those people...

maybe if they cared a lil more about what the base of their party wanted, it wouldnt even be something to worry about ....

regardless tho
last time i checked clinton served 2 terms and al gore lost because of ELECTION FRAUD....


but hey, nice attempt to blame an entire group of people for any of the democratic partys short comings...

[iamthebandfanman]

55. lol, they wish thats how it worked.

what exactly are we doing that is 'bringing him down'?