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HopeOverFear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 10:27 AM
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A request from Bob Cesca re: indefinite detention
Edited on Fri May-22-09 10:32 AM by HopeOverFear
http://www.bobcesca.com/blog-archives/2009/05/request.html#comments

I know it's important to hold the president accountable -- and especially on topics like indefinite detentions -- but can we get Guantanamo closed first before we start arguing in favor of turning some of the detainees loose?

I'm just saying.

A solid position is wasted if the timing screws another solid position.

In other words, we obviously have our work cut out for us getting our weakling Democratic representatives to cough up money to close Guantanamo. But the argument in favor of closing Guantanamo is solid and airtight, plus it has the vocal backing of the president. Do we really want to mix in a second layer of debate in which the upshot is actually the worst nightmare of every member of Congress (being blamed for turning detainees loose)?

We should seriously fight the indefinite detention thing, but... now?
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 10:33 AM
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1. This is what I don't understand
these so called "people of the left" are so indisciplined that any latest rumor sends then in a tizzy. Its little wonder the right wing ideologues always defeat those on the left.
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HopeOverFear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 10:54 AM
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2. Exactly. And IF Gitmo is NOT closed within a year, the left will be
Edited on Fri May-22-09 10:54 AM by HopeOverFear
screaming even more. But it will be their fault for making a stink about something that's Step 2 of a Multi-step process. We haven't even completed Step 1 yet.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 11:22 AM
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3. some get off on the need to be perpetually pissed off in righteous outrage.
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HopeOverFear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 11:25 AM
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5. That's a hell of a way to live. I can't live like that. nm
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 11:27 AM
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6. i can only think they feel morally superior about it.
:shrug:
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HopeOverFear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 11:32 AM
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7. Pretty much.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 11:24 AM
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4. I thought the President had referred to "Prolonged" detention,
not "Indefinite". One means perhaps a long time, perhaps not, and the other means forever.

I may be wrong, but that is my understanding as to what vocabulary was used.

Whatever the case may be, the terms are not interchangeable. It's like comparing hundreds to trillions.

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