Eric Cantor: People like their choice of health plan

[question everything]

Yeah, right, they like it until they lose their jobs and their plan.

Or until their employers change the plans with new providers, can no longer offer it, eliminating family members, raising copayment - for both premiums and care - or eliminating the plans altogether.

[DefenseLawyer]

1. Eric Cantor: (Rich) People like their choice of everything.

Things are good you losers. Stop trying to spoil it for us with your poverty and sickness and whatnot.

[Kerrytravelers]

2. Yes, people like the choice of health care plans that deny them.

[Captain Hilts]

3. I am unemployed and can afford insurance, but no company wants me because I'm unemployed.

I even qualified for the 'healthy' discount.

[endarkenment]

4. The only time I had a 'choice' was when I was self employed.

Does anyone call them on their transparent and obvious bullshit? (rhetorical question)

[question everything]

13. Yes, the editor of the Nation, Katrina vanden Heuvel told him that he benefits

from a government plan... and just weasled away.

(they were on MSNBC)

[Fovea]

5. Translation- Americans love being some HMOs bitch.

Cantor is going to run head long into 20% real unemployment by the end of 2010.
If he gets his way, there will be essentially no Republican party in 2011.

[Dappleganger]

6. I'd like to have Cantor's health plan!

[Arkana]

7. And we're not taking that away from them.

But Cantor's too stupid and stubborn to hear that, isn't he?

[ellacott]

8. Have they even talked to people?

Does he realize there are people who have no choice in healthcare because they don't have any healthcare?

I wonder how many of those people who like their health plan know that they are also paying for the uninsured. Do they realize that even though they are paying a surcharge for the uninsured that many of the uninsured still can't get seen by a doctor.

The uninsured also don't always get care at emergency rooms. Even though hospitals won't turn anyway they are only required to treat them until their condition is stabalized? They can still be discharged from the ER without their condition being adequately treated.

[DJ13]

9. If they like it Repubs and corp. Dems should have no worries about public options

So whats the problem?

[DeschutesRiver]

10. We are semi retired/self employed

Our insurance is running around 5,000/year. There is a $5000 deductible per person. There is a $6000 limit co-pay up to about the first $20,000 in claims. We are in our fifties.

If we both needed care in a single year, anything over $20,00 per each of us, between the premiums, the deductible (which is what lowered the premium), and the co-pay, we'd need to come up with $22,000 beyond the 5k we pay in premiums. Wouldn't even have to be catastrophic. The doctors we have to choose from (this isn't even a pick any doc you want plan) suck, for the few minor things we gone in for and had misdiagnosed anyway. We have no pre-existing conditions and are relatively healthy.

So that's 5k per year for sure, and if we need coverage, the extra $22,000. I don't know what the fuck Cantor is talking about. I don't like my choice (BCBS) but the others here that are available suck even worse. That said, I am not sure there is anything in this new health care plan that will help us anyway.

[ellacott]

11. Cantor needs to talk to people like you

It's so insulting for him to say things like that. He doesn't know what he's talking about.

[DeschutesRiver]

20. I don't think he would be interested

You and I and all of us pay for superb health care with all the trimmings for Cantor and his loved ones. So all is right in his corner of the world on this issue. Yep, insulting covers it.

[question everything]

14. And then, as recently reported in the AARP bulletin

many cancer treatment centers require payment "upfront" of 20 or 30 or 40K..

[DeschutesRiver]

22. I did not know that! nt

[jannyk]

18. We have exactly the same plan as you...

we too are semi-retired and in our 50's. Neither of us has seen a doctor for any 'preventative' healthcare or minor ailments in over ten years. We stock up on antibiotics and other meds when we drive down to Mexico, tough it out and self medicate.

Yes, we carry expensive 'Health Insurance' but we still do NOT have access to 'Health Care' we can afford!

[DeschutesRiver]

21. Exactly that - we are part of the insured "tough it out and self medicate 1st" crowd

what a country, eh? Part of me is thinking "maybe it is time to start vacationing in Mexico"; the other part is thinking why should you or I or anyone have to go to Mexico to get what is unobtainable inexpensively here at home?

Could you even imagine the luxury it would be to have preventative care? Or just to have someone who is competent look at something that we now self medicate first, just in case it wasn't as minor as we thought, and maybe we'd get a jump on a serious illness?

A girl can dream....

[chelsea0011]

12. What choice? The only option is the employer choice option.

[LiberalFighter]

25. I was wondering about that. I don't think many employers offer choices any more.

[Bobbie Jo]

15. As predicted...the first lie out of the gate.

IF YOU LIKE WHAT YOU HAVE....KEEP IT.

[RoadRage]

16. They do.. and they also like security of knowing that they HAVE healthcare

when their company goes bankrupt and they lose their job... when their kid gets sick and they have to take off 5 months to be with him and can no longer afford the insurance premium or the bills they are getting because of the sick kid... the fact that they can't get shot down and never qualify for insurance due to a "pre existing" condition.. etc.

Yup.. people like choices, until those choices are gone. People are eternal optimists... they never think bad things can happen.. and they can, and they do.

[flpoljunkie]

17. Cantor leading the charge to protect insurance companies' profits! Way to go, Cantor!

[zulchzulu]

19. Senator Cantor sure likes his government-run healthcare WE PAY FOR

Yeah, Senators complaining about government-run healthcare simply need to give it up NOW.

[PVnRT]

23. I suppose I could "choose" to pay hundreds more on my own

Honestly, what is the point with negotiating with these people on this issue?

[andym]

24. Even if one's employer gives you a choice-- it's not an overwelming one

At my company we get a choice between Blue Shield HMO or PPO. Not bad insurance (but expensive 1400/month for a family), but not much of a choice either.