Rassmussen Reports: If 2012 election were held today Obama/Romney tied at 45...Obama 48, Palin 42

[SemiCharmedQuark]

If the 2012 presidential election were held today, President Obama and possible Republican nominee Mitt Romney would be all tied up at 45% each, according to a new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey.

The president, seeking a second four-year term, beats another potential GOP rival, Alaska Governor Sarah Palin, by six points – 48% to 42%.

In both match-ups, seven percent (7%) like some other candidate, with three percent (3%) undecided.
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When Romney is the Republican nominee, he beats Obama among unaffiliated voters 48% to 41%. But when Palin is the GOP candidate, unaffiliated voters prefer Obama by a 47% to 41% margin.

Men prefer the Republican over Obama whether it’s Romney or Palin, while women like the president better in both match-ups. Palin continues to fare more poorly among women than her male rivals.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections2/election_2012/2012_match_ups_obama_romney_tied_at_45_obama_48_palin_42

On Edit, this poll is being thrown around by the Freepers and someone on another thread asked where they had pulled it from. Well..here you go.

[Occam Bandage]

1. This is approximately as useful as a 2080 poll between two yet-to-be-conceived candidates. nt

[Uzybone]

and considering its Rasmussen

its even less useful than that.

[jberryhill]

15. I think that Hillary Clinton's cousin's great grandson has an edge over

...The fifth cloning of Ron Paul.

But that's just a hunch, depending on how the Brazilian civil war is going.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

19. I shall cast my vote for Soylent Paul.

[SidneyCarton]

30. The Mineros will beat back the Goiano infantry and sack Brasilia

While the Paulistas drive the Cariocas out of Rio and into the Bahia.

[Forkboy]

2. it's Rasmussen...add 10 to Obama and subtract it from the Repubs.

[Kdillard]

4. Exactly.

[Bleacher Creature]

3. Sarah Palin is not getting 42% of the vote in any nationwide general election. Period.

[YOY]

8. Bingo.

n.t.

[saltpoint]

27. Agree. If anything, she dragged McCain's numbers down after that

initial post-convention bounce.

And there's just no visible base for her as a candidate. She creates a stir in the media but it doesn't translate to vote.

[wryter2000]

5. I want some of what he's smoking

No, wait...I don't. That's some messed up s**t.

[Zynx]

6. Whatever. This matters so very little even if this was a legit poll.

[zulchzulu]

7. A month is infinity politically, so 36 months is like really a long time

If it was 2012 today...

Yeah, if I was Marilyn Monroe in 1943...

[SemiCharmedQuark]

9. Pfft. That's what they said about the last Presidential election. Ask President Guilliani how

that turned out.

[zulchzulu]

13. Yep. Dr. Frist and George Allen have a chance at winning the GOP nomination

That was some of the talk in 2005.

[Drunken Irishman]

10. No way do I buy this poll.

Rasmussen is out of whack and I don't say that because it shows a tight race. They're the only approval poll out there who has Obama's disapproval at or near his approval.

No other poll is like that.

Most polls have the margin 25+.

[Sebastian Doyle]

11. While I rarely take Assmussen polls all that seriously, this does illustrate a point.

A three point margin can and WILL be stolen through electro-fraud machines. We need to get rid of those goddamn things, but failing that, we need the turnout to be huge enough to override the fraud. And middle of the road, pro-Wall $treet, Pro Goldmine Sucks, Pro Insurance Criminals, anti American people policies are not going to bring that turnout.

[Rebubula]

12. DEAR GOD!

Can't we just have a LITTLE time before we start discussing an election that is 4 years away?? I am just recovering from this one...

[DarthDem]

14. ScottyRazz . . .

. . . is a right-wing nut whose polls always reflect that ideology, until he adjusts his methodology as the election approaches to approximate more closely what he knows will happen based on real polling. Then he can say he was right and claim credibility. Meanwhile, he has mantained his cred among his rapidly shrinking base.

Razz is financially independent, having founded sports network ESPN with his father and then made a mint selling it to Disney. He doesn't have to worry about his bias because right-wingers will almost always support him, but if they won't, he can pay for a push-poll himself.

Ignore all polls from this silly prankster.

[Yavin4]

16. Giuliani Leads GOP Race; Huckabee, Others Tie for Second -- Gallup December 2007

PRINCETON, NJ -- After a recent surge in national Republican support for Mike Huckabee for the 2008 Republican presidential nomination, springing him from a distant fifth place in early November into a tie for second at the end of the month, a new USA Today/Gallup poll, conducted Dec. 14-16, finds that Huckabee's rapid rise has leveled off. The latest poll results are nearly identical to what they were in Gallup's late November/early December survey.


http://www.gallup.com/poll/103348/giuliani-leads-gop-race-huckabee-others-tie-second.aspx


Guiliani went on to win one delegate.

[Yavin4]

17. Giuliani Leads GOP Race; Huckabee, Others Tie for Second -- Gallup December 2007

PRINCETON, NJ -- After a recent surge in national Republican support for Mike Huckabee for the 2008 Republican presidential nomination, springing him from a distant fifth place in early November into a tie for second at the end of the month, a new USA Today/Gallup poll, conducted Dec. 14-16, finds that Huckabee's rapid rise has leveled off. The latest poll results are nearly identical to what they were in Gallup's late November/early December survey.


http://www.gallup.com/poll/103348/giuliani-leads-gop-race-huckabee-others-tie-second.aspx


Guiliani went on to win one delegate.

[Yavin4]

18. Poll Was Released to Scare Centrist Dems

Make them believe that Obama is going down to defeat in 2012.

[Cali_Democrat]

20. Rasmussen Shock Poll

LOL

I wonder if Drudge is pimping this poll. I refuse to go to his website again.

[icnorth]

21. Kind of reminds me of the old commercial...

Is new Gillette Foamy thick and rich enough to stop this speeding car???

[RememberWellstone]

22. Rassrepublican?

Might as well be citing FOX news polls.:eyes:

[ShadowLiberal]

23. Considering how many points lower Rasmussen's been consistently scoring Obama it's no surprise

Seriously, I remember a month or two ago looking at the polling averages in the last few months on a variety of political issues & Obama's numbers, and one thing stood out a lot. Obama did at least 5 points worse with Rasmussen then any other pollster all the time, which says that they're probably over sampling republicans by at least several points.

And besides, much as Romney tries to make himself look like a normal electable candidate he's not, remember back in early 2008 when polls were showing that both Obama & Hillary would beat Romney by like 15 points? Romney isn't going to be able to run from his radical flip flops, he'll make all the GOP's claims about Kerry being a flip flopper look ridiculously minor in comparison. I mean seriously, he went from running against Ted Kennedy for the senate saying stuff like "I'll be better for gays then Ted Kennedy" (who supports gay marriage), to bashing gays every chance he got in 2008. There were also a few Romney campaign ads from his runs in Massachusetts that now make him look like a joke because of his serial flip flops that are posted on youtube.

[Aramchek]

24. take this trash to the curb

[SuperTrouper]

25. Remember, 1/8 ( 12.5%) of Obama's First Term is over...Rasmussen is so relevant at this point

:sarcasm:

[saltpoint]

26. It doesn't seem to me that Romney is in any appreciably improved position

to win the Iowa caucus in 2012 than he was in 2008.

Also we would need to know the exact field of contenders to make guesses on individual chances.

If the field in Iowa is Palin, Huckabee, Romney, Pawlenty, and Barbour, it seems to me that Huckabee places ahead of the other four.

But is Jindal on the ballot too? How about Newt Gingrich? They'd all be competing for the same demographics, or percentages of percentages.

[Robbins]

28. RAS

Let's remember In 2008 they had Mccain gaining In PA.Obama won by almost 11.

RAS claims the Public prefers Republicans on Most Issues.

Before long RAS will have Obama at more disapproval than Approval.

Untill Fall 2012 any polling from there about the 2012 Presidential election should be dismissed,and even then could be wrong.

PPP,Gallup Daily,ABC,CBS,and Newsweek are better sources on approval.Hell Even Fox polling Is betetr than RAS which suggests RAS
wants to beat Fox as most antiObama polling firm.

[RBInMaine]

29. ANY poll right now is totally and completely MEANINGLESS. STUPID !

[SidneyCarton]

31. Well that's just brilliant.

Romney has zero chance of getting nominated in 2012, unless he abandons his religion and becomes a fundie. As a Mormon he has about as much chance in actually getting the GOP nomination as I do of getting on next year's People Magazine's Sexiest Man Alive List.

[fascisthunter]

32. again... Rasmussen...

sorry, but I doubt the numbers are that close.

[Still Sensible]

33. Bull Freaking Shit

If the president's approval ratings are hovering around 60%, these Rasmussen numbers have been pulled out of somebody's ass. The absolute lowest number I imagine the President could receive in a straight up poll would be around 52% (which, if the other numbers have any validity would be a 7-point edge on Romney and a 10 point edge on Palin... but I don't believe those numbers either). I'm hard pressed to see how one could rig a poll to come up with a tie with Romney and a competitive race with Palin. Please.