Overall I am VERY Pleased With President Obama.

[Yes We Did]

He has gotten more accomplished in 7 months than many presidents get done in their entire time in office. That said... When it comes to health insurance reform, which I am glad is actually being called what is really is, I only have one request for President Obama.

Fight as hard for it as you did getting elected.
Put in as many hours getting real reform passed as you spent talked to us about it.

Fight, Mr. President. Fight for the REAL change you PROMISED us.

Anything less that what you promised us, what you campaigned for, what we believed you were going to deliver makes it difficult to distinguish you from any other president who made promises he could not, or never intended to deliver.

You have been a wonderful president thus far, but this, as you know, is a tipping point. Unfair as it may be, regardless of whatever else you accomplish during your presidency, THIS is the moment you make your mark. THIS is the moment you can become the greatest leader this country has ever known.

I am confident you will not disappoint us, your supporters, the people who fought like hell to get you elected.

Thank you.

[sandnsea]

1. Maybe we need to fight as hard for it

as we did getting him elected. I'm not seeing that yet.

Take Action August

http://www.obama-mamas.com/blog/?p=351

[vaberella]

2. Ain't that the truth. n/t

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4. At least support is growing at the town halls.

Was reading on HuffPo today that supporters are beginning to outnumber the teabaggers.

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6. Trinkling through. But not like when he was a candidate.

This doesn't seem to be so much a concern on our side as it could be. We should have been countering the townhalls from the bloody get go. Again this is not about Obama, it's about US, it has always been about us and always will be and we need to fight for our rights. So far we have let clowns drown us out and then blame Obama, or emplore Obama. Obama has stood by his position from the beginning. He's never faltered in his message. To be honest I'm a bit tired of him saying the same thing over and over again because people are so bloody hard headed. They have difficulty grasping things on this side and the people at the townhalls who don't want to hear a thing are even worse. He can't break walls. We need to make a concentrated effort and a few here and there is not enough. Again we need to focus on the issue at hand and not the ones that are not being debated----but for many progressives they'll debate all the other issues in regards to health care, motives that are not on the table. However what they're not realizing is that they're also destroying Obama's momentum over the cause he is pushing forward.

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8. You know the problem...

We were ill prepared. Many of us weren't involved in politics the last time this happened, you know? I wasn't expecting all this. I was still in high school when Hillary tried for Health Care reform.

[vaberella]

11. So what? I was in elementary school. n/t

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Don't know why you're getting so riled up...

I'm just making a point. If you look at who is organizing all of these protests, they are people who have been through this before. This is the same stuff they did back in 93. They have tons of money and tons of experience behind them.

Don't know what I said to piss you off... just making an observation.

[vaberella]

17. I'm not riled.q

You suggest the President needs to grow a pair. You suggest the President needs to threaten these guys and you suggest the President needs to do this or that. What is annoying me is that you don't suggest you need a damned thing. In actuality you claim these people are seasoned veterans who are fighting against health care reform. The people giving the funding are seasoned. The people who are doing the fighting are seniors on medicare who can be talked down or at least ignored overall. We never had a candidate like Obamawho was able to organize as he did...that was a first but he was able to over power thet seasoned people ie McCain and HRC.

So this is not about being seasoned. It's about recognizing we bare some, if not majority of the responsibility in this debate. We need to speak out and I have to say I'm tired of everyone saying Obama and not pointing themselves more often. We have to do something.

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19. I speak out all the time..

I forward everything I can to my entire email list... Even to the republicans... I look to Obama for leadership, but when I see him say he won't sign a bill without a public option on day, and several weeks later he tells me that it's only a "sliver" I have a problem with it.

I get he's trying for bipartisanship, but at this point... it's a lost cause.

[vaberella]

3. I appreciate your post but I have to say: This is not about OBAMA!!!

This is about us. You keep saying he has to fight for it. What I've seen so far on his part is that he is fighting like the dickens for it and has been doing so from the beginning. However we seem to have gone on vacation. Your post in actuality should be directed to the people on this site to get bloody proactive and instead of complaiing or fighting for a cause that is not the issue at hand that is drowning us, to get behind the President and show that he has some bloody backing. What the Conservadems and Repubs and Bluedogs have seen is actually the voice of the people from the otherside who have no education yelling at the top of their lungs. However, they haven't really heard from us?! They haven't seen us fighting and wanting a strong health reform and viable pubic option. You have peopl screaming for single payer and that's all well and good however that is not the option Obama is currenly fighting for and has on the table. He needs to have the people who voted for him on his side and those wanting to see him fight to see that the fight isn't worthless because those he's fighting for are fighting with him. So please don't put this all on him...this is more about US as he has said and we have to bloody realize.

This is about us fighting for what we need. Or representation can only go so far.

[Yes We Did]

5. I'm sorry but...

I watched Dubya force through horrible, if not illegal policies with the slimmest of margins.

I know Obama is not Bush, and I am thankful for that... but at the same time, sometimes... I wish he had a little Bush in him.

Either they pass REAL legislation, or he helps find replacement. ANY Dem not voting for a public option needs to be replaced, and he needs to tell them he will be campaigning for their replacements.

This IS the democratic platform. Get on board, or get left behind.

edit: was a little crude...

[sandnsea]

7. What rally did you organize this month?

Where's your set?

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9. Pardon Me?

I'm not the president. And my Senators aren't the problem. They're both for a public option.

[vaberella]

13. So are mine and I live in New York. But you can go out there and be vocal.

Donate and speak out For the PResident's plan...not undermine it with, "he needs to grow a set." I'm not even in the US and I'm sending out emails to y friends who are New Yorkers and sending money to get this organize and the word spread. And I have been supporting the President and his plan from the bloody onset.

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15. So have I...

And I'm not undermining anything. I just wish he would be a little more forceful.

Oh, and by the way... I changed the "set" comment before you even replied to it. Not that it matters at this point.

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10. What Bush did was illegal as you stated....

Obama is following the bloody laws and the fact that our government has divisions of power. If you find him weak beause he's exercising the powers given to all departments of government...then there is really nothing more to say. He's been on national television, he's out in the field talking to the people. He's not Bush and never will be.


This is something that pisses me the hell off. Progresives are just as bad if not worse than Republicans. You say Obama is not Bush and you saw Bush push through illegal legislation. Yet, when we get our man in you want our man to follow the same illegal methods and that shows he has a "set of balls." Please realize what you are suggesting. You want a President as bad as Bush as long as they push through your agenda. It doesn't bloody work that way. I voted for a man who supports the rule of law and recognizes that there are divisions of power and a such everyone has a job and needs to contribute to our nation. I don't want him running willy-nilly pushing progressive policies that may not always be as right as people assume it to be.


Lastly, he shouldn't have to threaten a Dem. He's not the only one voting for them and that definitely doesn't work in the bloody work of politics. You mess with people like that and it could come to bite you in the ass especially when overall they may be your allies. The Republicans stated their not on his side. But the Dems support him overall and as such he will be working with said people to get things done. So it's not bloody realistic to even think that threatening people like fellow Dems will get shit done. Actually the only people with legitimate power to threaten a Dem are the voters---not the bloody President. We have the power and we should be excersizing it. Once again you've turned something that falls on our shoulder and about us onto the shoulder of Obama. He's not a monarch.

[Yes We Did]

12. I didn't want him to do anything illegal.

I just want a little of that "Fuck You" attitude. Not a lot... just a little. And it's not "my agenda"

It's the PLATFORM he overwhelmingly WON on.

[vaberella]

14. He has a "fuck you" attitude? When? He didn't win on that platform.

He won the platform that he appealed the concerns of the American people. The progressives could call that what they want but I didn't see any "fuck you," if that wasn't the case he wouldn't have pushed "bipartisan" like it was a new Versace brand throughout his candidacy and Presidency.

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16. And where has that gotten him?

Watered down bills that are less effective than they should be.

You look at what's going on now with Healthcare... First they dind't even consider single payer... then they said a public option wasn't important, and now the republicans won't even vote for a co-op.

There is no point to bipartisanship with a party that will say no to ANYTHING you try to pass.

I admire him trying, but really... it's kind of pointless.

[vaberella]

18. Ah, thanks for this. Now I see your position.

He's ineffective is wha you're saying. Fuck it....just go ahead and blame him because right now, you're just as bad as those screaming clowns at the townhall. You definitely have a position and he's not doing a good enough job for you and his stance is weak. Well then---enjoy.

[Yes We Did]

20. You must be kidding.

Last time I checked I was packing heat outside a Presidential town hall.

My position? My position is that he stick to what he promised... just a month ago. That's my position.

And yes, it pisses me off when he... gets wishy washy.

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21. Just curious... Did you read the whole post?

to the end... it sure doesn't seem like you could have with all the attacking you are doing.