So, Obama Doubles Down on Public Option.

[Saboburns]

Methinks there's scores of DU'ers with shitloads of Egg on face.

LOL

Not quite what I read here on DU Sunday, now is it??

[eleny]

1. But the news today is that White House is "mystified" by the reaction of the left

I think that the egg is on the White House.

Link to the thread about the article in the Wash Post. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x8598779

[Saboburns]

4. You do, do you??

I think the White House sees it EXACTLY like I do.

[Phx_Dem]

9. Ditto! The WH is not as stupid as many DUers.

What is surprising is that people actually believe the White House didn't think making comments alluding to indifference about a public option, would cause a Democratic freak out? Really? What planet are these people living on? Rachel, you go first.

[Fire1]

18. Ditto to your subject line and thank God for that!! n/t

[Undercurrent]

13. WaPo Unleashes Army Of Anonymous Sources To Slag Public Option

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/19/iwapoi-unleashes-army-of_n_263030.html

[eleny]

15. Thanks. At this point the WH needs to clarify all this

[Cha]

22. Eleny, I Got this from the White House and it's happening tomorrow..

Cha --

President Obama is holding a live strategy meeting on Thursday at 2:30 p.m. Eastern Time for all Organizing for America supporters. I hope you can join us, online or by phone.

The President will update us on the fight to pass real health insurance reform -- what's happening in D.C. and what's happening around the country. He'll lay out our strategy and message going forward and answer questions from supporters like you. And we'll unveil the next actions we'll organize together.

This is a critical time in this President's administration, and in the history of our country. I hope you can join us.

Here are the details:

What: Organizing for America National Health Care Forum

When: Thursday, August 20th, 2:30 p.m. Eastern Time

RSVP and submit a question for the President.

The President wrote to us a few weeks ago to ask us to go the extra mile this month in the fight for health insurance reform. And so far, you've stepped up in a big way: Last week, an astounding 60,000 Organizing for America volunteers stopped by representatives' and senators' local offices. You told your health care stories to staffers and members of Congress -- of losing insurance after getting laid off, of being denied coverage upon finding out about a serious illness. And you thanked those supporting real health insurance reform for all the work they've done so far.

But these local office visits were only part of the story. The D.C. media has been trumpeting coverage of town halls disrupted by angry opposition to reform. But the reality on the ground is very different. Organizing for America supporters are showing up in huge numbers at these meetings all across the country -- outnumbering opponents of reform, often by overwhelming margins.

You've organized 11,906 local events in all 50 states -- from press conferences to community discussions -- since we launched our big campaign for reform in June. And you've made hundreds of thousands of calls to Congress.

Your work so far has been incredible. But the special interests and partisan attack groups who oppose reform will not let up, and they will tell whatever lies they can to spread fear. There's a lot more work for all of us to do. This Thursday's meeting is our chance to huddle as a team, get the latest information and talk about how we're going to achieve this victory. You don't want to miss it.

Click here to RSVP and submit a question for President Obama:

http://my.barackobama.com/forum

Hope you can make it,

David Plouffe

[Cha]

20. Wow! I hadn't even read that before I posted

that I don't trust the wapo and anonymous sources. It's flagrantly blatant!

[Cha]

19. Anonymous sources from the WAPO..

Sorry, I don't trust anything from the wapo. They have to earn my trust after abusing it for so long.

I don't think Pres Obama is "mystified".. I think a big part of that rotten egg is on the face of the corporatemediawhoredom and will continue to be until they're held accountable for what they write.

[eleny]

21. The fact that things are so muddled now lays at the feet of the WH to fix

Whoever said or did whatever or didn't do whatever - the WH needs to be the clarifying entity. They need to come out with consistent language and a strong statement on exactly where they stand. In other words, they have to come out with a White House health care plan right now or this is going down badly.

[Cha]

27. The Meeting should be

very good tomorrow starting at 2:30 EST.:)

[eleny]

36. It has to be

And thanks for the details you posted for me in the other thread! :hi:

[Phoebe Loosinhouse]

2. You might be confusing cause and effect.

I think the White House did not expect the level of anger they received when it appeared they were trying to walk away from the public option.

I don't really care which was cause and which was effect, but I hope Obama does double down. I hope he goes for broke. A public option is the only part of the equaion which will cause real reform and not just be some stupid jury rigging of a broken system.

[Saboburns]

5. Only they never walked away from the Public Option

That's kinda the whole fukking point right there.

[GarbagemanLB]

6. They have been trying to. I hope their recent actions mean they realize how important it is.

[Saboburns]

7. "Now this is not the end. "

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning."

We don't elect Kings here in America, and a President doesn't have a magic wand. An American President doesn't get to make Law.

Thank God.

There is a process by which things happen.

But you must have Faith.

[Mystayya]

12. Waiting untila final bill is signed is not the right time to speak out

The Masses must loudly demand what is right BEFORE any bill gets to the President's desk. It is the pressure from the public that mold what happens in DC. When we are quiet, good, obedient children then the ONLY thing that speaks to them is corporate MONEY. The only thing they fear more then loss of money is loss of votes.

[Phx_Dem]

11. Explaining that to some peole is like "talking to the dining room table."

As Barney Frank so eloquently told a Tea Bagger at his town hall.

If you didn't hear it, it was hilarious. Frank to teabagger lady: "Talking to you is like talking to my dining room table. I don't enjoy doing either." ROLF!

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

16. I think the White House saw angry teabaggers and passive progressives.

I think he saw his supporters getting shouted down and the people the voted for him, that want the public option not doing a goddamn thing.

I think the White House needs to push us as much as we need to push them - this was one of those moments.

[polichick]

37. +1

[ClayZ]

3. There is a "consciousness raising" going on in this country.

It is those LOW DANGLERS that are hard to get to "look up".

[Phx_Dem]

8. And some liberal cable show hosts as well.

:rofl:

[Mystayya]

10. No one has egg on their face for standing up and loudly demanding what is right

If the voices are loud enough, then they are heard and adjustments are made.

[Saboburns]

14. No

But you get Egg on Your Face for poor mouthing the White House for dropping the Public Option WHEN THE WHITE HOUSE NEVER DROPPED THE PUBLIC OPTION.

Know whut I mean??

[Mystayya]

17. No- I don't know what you mean

The WH eluded to the fact that they might be willing to drop the public option. When the push-back was enormous, they adjusted and are now making a more forceful stand on it. If the left had simply shut up and said nothing, the public option, in my opinion, would have probably been dropped during the "bi-partisan" negotiations.

[damonm]

23. What he meant, I believe, is this...

Obama has, on many occasions, said "I cannot do this alone"; that he required our help. His seeming to abandon the public option held OUR feet to the fire, and we've responded as needed. We've reminded him AND the American public that there is indeed strong support for the public option - giving the lie to RW claims of "flagging support". We've given him the covering fire he needs to move forward when it seemed we were getting passive.
In addition, he ONCE AGAIN exposed the righties as simple obstructionists - they wouldn't even accept co-ops - who want NOTHING done. THIS is the genius of "bi-partisanship"; forcing the GOP further and further into the whackadoodle world of their crazy base, and even further from mainstream thinking. Once he's safely marginalized the righties, he can get down to some SERIOUS business.

[CTyankee]

25. I think his internal polls were key. They probably show a heavy favoring for a public option.

I can't believe a team as smart as Obama's hasn't been concentrating on their polls and not on MSM natterings. You may be right about their "trial balloon," I just don't know myself.

BTW, not to be too anal about it, but please look up the words "elude" and "allude." I'm sure you meant the latter, not the former...:hi:

[Mystayya]

28. yes, I did

But I am posting at work and sometimes don't get to proof read as well as I ought to. I just sort of typing as if I am speaking and you can imagine the mistakes :)

[CTyankee]

29. I constantly goof on "their" and "there" lately and I tutor ESOL to immigrants!

I wonder if it is just an Internet thing, a rush thing or the aging process...

[CakeGrrl]

30. The Obama administration is definitely not as stupid as some on DU would like to think

For some on here to think that a team who got to the WH by understanding internal primary polling is oblivious to what the true Healthcare polls are saying is pretty stupid in itself.

I didn't just receive an e-mail invitation to a strategy session from David Plouffe for nothing.

[Yuugal]

24. link?

I saw him pull his bet off the table and run. Has he come out and said "nothing passes unless it has a public option in it?"

[freddie mertz]

26. Not so far. They are claiming WE got it all wrong...

Or some such.

They don't make a lot of sense, actually.

[Saboburns]

34. You did??

Prove what you say.

That's my only point.

President Obama, nor the White House, has changed their stance on the Public Option.

But it has been portrayed by many that he (they) did.

[freddie mertz]

38. Right, everyone from Rachel to Big Ed, Keith to Jon Stewart, the House Progressives

Got it all wrong.

What a bunch of dopes, or freepers, or whatever!

[Lex]

31. I'm glad he is, but I'm astonished the WH let the message get eroded

without doing much at all the past few weeks. That was NOT good.

Now they are in crisis mode trying to shore up what got away from them.

[Dawgs]

Bullshit. In June, Obama said that it must be part of HC reform. Now, he just prefers it.

Things have changed, unless he now says that the public option MUST be part of the bill.

[freddie mertz]

33. They deny that the message changed, which is a bald-faced lie.

I expected more from this White House.

At least we know what we are dealing with now.

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