******* Breaking: White House walks back "Dems going it alone" *******

[Hutzpa]

according to The Hill, White House is insisting on Bipartisan health care bill....

White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said the administration remains committed to drawing Republican support for the bill, particularly in the Senate.

http://www.thehill.com/leading-the-news/white-house-insists-it-wants-bipartisan-health-bill-2009-08-19.html


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[rockymountaindem]

1. Everything is just talk

We'll know by their actions. I never thought for a second that they would drop at least the facade of bipartisanship.

[dsamuels0078]

3. wow

Cnn wins award for bad reporting

[Hutzpa]

8. Its not bad reporting

CNN were accurate with their reporting last night.

[Cant trust em]

16. CNN has more awards than Jack Nicholson at this point

Doesn't Iraq have WMDs?

[Demoiselle]

30. It's a NYTimes headline this morning..

"Democrats seem set to go alone on a health bill" starts the story, right side above fold, front page.

[ErinBerin84]

2. I remember hearing

last night on one of the news shows that "sources say" that there is one more official bi-partisan meeting, so they can't officially say they are going it alone yet (why the hell not, I don't know), but they really are going it alone. I don't know what to believe anymore, but if we do finally just go with all Dems, it hasn't been soon enough.

[Lasher]

18. Obama and Congressional Democrats have been going it alone since January 20.

They were just too stupid to realize it.

[ErinBerin84]

25. I agree.

But did I really expect the news to be confirmed through a Gibbs press briefing? No. But I really don't know what is going to happen. I'm not in denial, because I really feel like it could go either way at this point.

[Lasher]

33. I can salute that.

I'm highly skeptical but haven't given up hope for a surprise. I won't be satisfied with a bill that is reform in name only.

[Cha]

41. I disagree..They realized it and put on

the show for the fucking stupid republicons.

[Bonobo]

4. Obviously they cannot admit to "going it alone". Duh.

Are some people really so fatuous that they believe EVERYTHING people say? Jeebus!

[dmallind]

12. The complete dismissal of anything approaching realpolitik on this site is a bit amazing isn't it?

[Bonobo]

15. It's like discussing politics with the Mickey Mouse Club.

[femmocrat]

5. Oh for crying out loud....

Let's get Snowe and Collins and call it bi-partisan then.

:eyes:

[eleny]

10. Works for me

[Windy]

28. That's the goal in my opinion. They will continue to put up the bi-partisan

facade until congress is back in sesssion. I think that Snowe and Collins will go along anyway. They are rational.

I think he hard right in and them will smack them down at a later point. Obama is far from stupid when it comes to playing the political game. As many have said here he beat the Clinton machine and he, against the odds and crazy right wing, became the first African American President. I never underestimate him.

[Teaser]

56. uh, that's why he said this

otherwise, it spits in the face of the two R votes that are gettable.

[eleny]

6. By that I hope they mean a 'take it or leave it" approach

[AspenRose]

7. I'm dizzy.

:crazy:

[Jennicut]

9. Its a wait and see game now, it all depends on their actions during the critical votes

Leaking that you might go nuclear and then saying you want bipartisanship the next day may seem confusing unless you realize the WH is talking to two different audiences. The Rethugs already jumped the gun and are whining about the Dems killing bipartisanship.

[Hutzpa]

11. +1000

you're on to something there....

[Cant trust em]

13. Thank God someone around here gets it. nt

[DevonRex]

14. I believe this is their response to the Pukes claiming the WH killed bipartisanship.

The WH still looks reasonable. The Pukes still look and sound like utter idiots.

[Jennicut]

20. Exactly. They are a sad bunch of fools.

[CakeGrrl]

36. Yep. The Pubs are nothing if not predictable;

they leap on any chance to accuse the Administration of doing wrong.

People who keep screaming about the WH trying for bipartisanship don't get it, IMO; they KNOW the Repubs will stoop to any accusation that the WH isn't playing fair; the WH has put up a pile of proof that they have done more than that, to the point of pissing off some on the Left.

Why? So they can prove that "we tried and tried" when they DO put a bill through with pretty much zero Repub support.

[DevonRex]

48. Hell, the Dems have even put up with republicans with GUNS. That

shows a very strong committment to trying to get the republicans to act like normal people. The republicans declined. :rofl:

And anybody who can't see that is just foolish.

[rocktivity]

17. Well, why SHOULDN'T be commited to it

now that they don't NEED it and CAN go alone? Gibbs is just being polite.

:evilgrin:
rocktivity

[Windy]

29. precisely... After Bush, too many people want black and white sound bites

We have a very intelligent and politically savvy man in the Whitehouse right now. He knows exactly what he's doing.

[villager]

19. well. Of course.

n/t

[Mystayya]

21. All this spinning in circles is making me dizzy

I'm to the point where I am going to ignore the daily stories and just stay focused on demanding Single Payer or a Public Option from my Congressional Delegation and the WH.

[undeterred]

38. +1

[hlthe2b]

22. They are giving me whiplash...

Wake me when we have consensus on what the hell is going on.

[stray cat]

23. WH never walked it forward

[Phx_Dem]

24. They are not going to publicly announce that they don't care or want

republican votes. DUH! It's amazing how many people, who follow politics, don't know shit about it.

:banghead:

[alcibiades_mystery]

26. OP title FAIL

:rofl:

[billyoc]

27. Don't worry, Gibbs, nobody fell for that bullshit anyway.

Outside DU, I mean.

[Windy]

31. You really are a first class downer aren't you... another who only sees the black and white

and not the entire picture. Of course, as much as you dislike Obama and have from the beginning, your attitude doesn't surprise me.

[billyoc]

Do you have a reference to my disliking Obama "from the beginning",

or did you just reflexively pull that out of your ass?

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34. Republicans destroyed this country

They ran up the deficit that the Dems are now blamed for.
They destroyed the American Dream by killing the labor movement and "redistributing" assets to the wealthiest.
They hijacked any sense of patriotism to support their own warped sense of reality.
They strive to revert America back to the puritanical days, even while the much of the rest of the world has passed us by.
They are the enemy of fairplay, of justice, of equality, of truth.
They are dinosaurs and they are becoming extinct - that's not being hopeful, that's being realistic.
Why do we seek consensus with fools?

[Arkana]

35. They've got to get their message in order.

[Teaser]

55. no they don't

this will be the message. which is not the policy.

Bipartisanship is a nice word to play on the 6 pm news. expect to keep hearing it.

[jenmito]

37. BREAKING-They WILL "go it alone" if they have to but the WH isn't going to ADMIT it right now!

It wasn't the WH that said they'll use reconciliation if necessary. It was Dems. on the Hill and the reporting on that hasn't changed from last night. The WH is "walking it back" just because they don't want to look like they've given up on bi-partisanship.

[SIMPLYB1980]

39. I realy can't belive that people around this place don't

understand what the WH is doing.

[jenmito]

40. I DO! See my post above yours. n/t

[SIMPLYB1980]

43. You get it, but there are a lot of people that don't or

are being intentionally dumb about it.

[scheming daemons]

44. Post #42 is one of them

[jenmito]

45. Thanks. There are a couple others here who get it, too.

But the rest of 'em need to use common sense and maybe they'll understand if they try hard enough.

[DevonRex]

59. I get it. I've always gotten it. And some people are always

just bitter.

[Canuckistanian]

42. More waffling

They're about as resolute as a two year old. This is inspiring ZERO confidence.

[jenmito]

46. They're not waffling! Don't you see what's going on here? They're not going to ADMIT what's

going to happen-that they'll do this without the Repubs./Blue Dogs if they have to!

[Canuckistanian]

47. If you say so

But all this non-committal attitude isn't inspiring the people.

And people are what drives politicians to act.

[jenmito]

50. Gibbs was just asked if it's true that the WH is involved in looking into passing the bill

through reconciliation and he said he doesn't know and that he's focused on the "here and now-not the 'what if.'" It should be obvious to everyone that they ARE. How could they "walk back" something they never said? It's "Dems. on the Hill" that told reporters about this.

[Cha]

49. I have confidence in the Obama

Admin..I don't need to worry about what the different reports are..I know they're doing the very best job to combat the big money sources that do not want this Health Insurance Reform to pass..especially with a viable Public Option.

[Teaser]

54. how smart are you?

How often do you send out your spokesman to intentionally piss people off?

[polichick]

51. Maybe they could hand out white flags for Dems to wave at the town hall meetings. nt

[Cha]

52. CorporatemediaWhores at it again..of course

the White House needs a couple of repubs but the corporatemedia is determined to make the Dems look bad and so many get Sucked in.

[Teaser]

53. WE HAVE A WINNER: STUPID POST OF THE DAY!!!

Are you so clueless that you think they will send out the president's spokesperson and publically shit on what remains of the process?
Publically say FU to the two Republican votes they are likely to get (Snowe and Collins)?

note...I believe this question to be rhetorical.

[Hutzpa]

57. .

:rofl:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=8596154#8596350

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=8599411#8599529

[SIMPLYB1980]

58. First link is ignored second is a obvious troll.

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