Either way it goes.....do we have a plan?

[senseandsensibility]

A few weeks ago, before the repuke hate fest, when things were looking a little better for us, I jokingly told my friend, "If Kerry wins, I will be outside dancing in the streets on November 3, and if he loses, I'll be in bed, crying with the mother of all hangovers."

It strikes me now that neither of these are particularly practical reactions. If Kerry wins, we still have a lot of work to do, and it should start from day one. We need to immediately pressure the corporate media to give Kerry the quite extended and ridiculous honeymoon they so willingly granted *, even after he stole the election in one of the ugliest political events of modern history. Remember, even before 9-11, (long before) they were willing lapdogs for the chimp.

On the other hand, if Kerry loses, nursing a hangover and crying are great emotional releases I suppose, but I've changed my mind now. I want to act in the face of such an event. I want my actions to be practical, constructive, effective,and impossible to ignore. Any suggestions?

[Gyre]

1. Wait until the serious stuff starts.

Then you'll have lots of company and they can't shoot us all.:)

Gyre

[Gregorian]

2. I'm an idiot with a very low IQ

And I suppose this is either impossible, or so obvious that everyone has already thought of it. It seems to me that the media is our biggest problem. And they aren't going to change. So asking them to do, or be, anything is a waste of time. What we need is a NEW media. We need to start a media that is truthful. It just amounts to lots of money. The alternative is to go down the same road we've been going down for decades. We need a media that will make Fox and MSNBC obsolete. A media that people will watch when they want the truth. Cspan comes to mind. But they don't send reporters around the world to investigate. That's where the money comes in.
I do not expect America to change with John Kerry. It certainly didn't start with Little Boy Bush.


All I'm saying is that we need to spread the truth. Whatever it is, we cannot afford to continue the misinformation campaigns, on all levels of this society. We cannot wait until the last iceberg has melted, and the oceans no longer support life, to make ourselves aware.

[senseandsensibility]

4. I can tell you're not an idiot

and I agree that the existing media will never be fair, and it's useless to hope that it will be. But if Kerry wins, I think that all Dems appearing on shows should demand a honeymoon for Kerry. They can point out that * got one after the roughest, most unfair election ever. Sure, the cards are stacked against us in the corporate media, but when the Dems learn to speak to it with a unified voice they can make some progress. Also, I believe there is much to be gained simply by calling the "journalists" on their bias during live interviews. Quit going along with the charade that this is an unbiased media. Call them out, like Michael Moore did.

[cheshire]

6. Kerry said to Haliburton You're fired and I say the same to the Media.

We need to have our voices heard and if we keep this level of earnestness we can start a campaign to get the media to do their jobs and do them properly.

[necso]

3. If the election is won (against us) fairly,

then we must accept the judgment of the people.

If not, we must wait and see what develops.

Events unfold in their own time.

And some passes you can only think about.

The fight against the darkness will continue until it is either won or lost.

And beware of traps!

Oh, and we can expect nothing of the media -- nothing.

[El Biggo Doggo]

5. it occurs to me

that efforts run on the engine of money.
If Kerry wins, yea, i'm serious, big party! but then there needs to be an indy counsel who will investigate:
halliburton/cheney
bush/saudis
etc.
NO MORE FREE PASSES. EVER.
if we lose, we need to start collecting money NOW for 2008, run someone so good they shine in direct light. we will need an opp-center, so we don't lose someone like Howard Dean to 'creative' sound editing at a rally- (what bs- he yelled at a rally to whip up the troops; w. lets his troops die...)
either way, something has to be done about fox and rush. why isn't rush in jail? how many pills did he buy? sheesh. you take rush and o'reilly out of the equation, they're replaced by people who aren't as entrenched, easier to knock down. yeah, they're just 'pundits', but a lot of poor redstaters get all their news from those two fools.

[necso]

10. Good points.

We must continue the fight in all its forms until we win or lose.

And it will take lots of money and effort.

And yes, those who stray must fear some retribution. Otherwise everybody will just do whatever.

No more free passes, indeed -- no more "Mr. Nice Guy", either.

And the impact of "Pundits" is a problem, no doubt.

The media has dishonored their duty and betrayed the American people.

[ramapo]

7. My plan...

If Kerry wins, I'll be very happy for at least a few days. I'll have a victory drink or two or three and relish the concession speech. Sure there'll be very tough days ahead as the rabid-repubs go after Kerry from Day One. Unless there is a big swing in Congress, there will be no honeymoon. Kerry will have to contend with the huge mess that F*-up has created and no doubt shoulder much of the blame.

If Kerry loses, I'll feel sick and probably have many drinks to mark the passing of hope. I will then go into isolation mode. No TV news period. The TV will go off once the election is concluded. I'll only skim the newspapers, avoiding anything political, maybe even no more DU, and I'll certainly reduce my Internet news intake. I will focus on my life, the things I enjoy, and that which helps my family directly.

If Kerry can't beat the Miserable Failure, then Kerry doesn't deserve to be President and the American people deserve what they get with four more years of *. It's pretty much to the point now where there's not a damn thing we can do about this election. The debates and events will shape the remainder of the race. I've given generously to Kerry, MoveOn, and local candidates and have tried to influence those close to me. I'm signed up to do some volunteering. There's not much else left to do but prepare oneself for whatever it is may come.

I had a VERY difficult time with the Selection. It really had a huge impact on my emotional and mental well-being, as I know it had on many fellow DUers. I vow not to succumb to that reaction if the worst case comes to be. That would be like letting the terrorists win.

So I maintain a hopeful optimism tempered by the knowledge that BushCo has done an excellent propaganda job and many of our fellow Americans just don't see the world as we do.

Hope for the best but expect the worst.

[tedoll78]

8. If Bush somehow wins, I will do two things:

1) I will contact the ACLU and donate what I can.

2) I will contact ALL Democratic senators with a simple message:
"I am what you might call a 'core Democratic voter.' I vote in every election - even the ridiculously small elections that get next-to-no coverage. If you allow Bush to put another Scalia on the Supreme Court, I will sit home on every Election Day for the next twenty years. And I can assure you that I won't be the only one. You won't get any more money from me, and I will spend no time working for your election. I can tolerate a LOT of disappointment when it comes to you guys and gals being weak-willed in fighting the Republicans, but this is THE one thing I cannot tolerate. I hope this is crystal clear. Thank you, and good luck."

[senseandsensibility]

9. Those sound like practical ideas

I'm trying to avoid the feeling of despair that a Kerry loss would bring. I want to have a game plan. I'm still planning mine, and I hope other DUers are, too.

[knowbody0]

11. if we loose

there will be a revolution for sure. the draft will set our nation on fire. bush's plan is for world power, turning our country into a third world nation. look at the globe. people are disposable to these guys, their plan was birthed at the end of WWII. carlyle and haliburton are the masters.the depleted uranium in iraq at present is equal to that of 250,000 Hiroshima blasts. our guys are breathing that shit for 15 months straight. the last election was a fraud. republicans hold the majority in the senate,the house and congress.the masses have been completely brainwashed by corporate media,controlled by fear and consumerism. the enlightened ones who see through the facade have loathing for this state of affairs. capitalism is not democracy, when the checks and balances are not equal. we are supposed to believe the boeing jet fit into an 18' hole at the pentagon. that it flew 8' above the freeway for three miles but no one heard it. that cheney's diddling with air traffic control that day was a coinsidence,... if kerry has all these truths saved up for the debates, we have a chance. i keep feeling hope for his intelligence and his courage and his virtue. he's showing a bit of this of late. it is a dangerous game. we need to be strong.

[bluedonkey]

12. my hope

is to win and live happily ever after.

If we lose,we better get organized.The old fashion way,cause the net will not be safe.
I have nightmares of fists pounding on my door in the middle of the night.

[Scorpious_Maximus]

13. Well....

The Assault Weapons Ban HAS been lifted, no?


um, no...

:freak:

[snippy]

14. Regardless of who wins the DNC needs to develop a strategy for the future.

The strategy needs to include:

1. Committing resources to defining the democratic party in a few simple phrases and concepts that refute the lies the republican party has ingrained in the public's mind through constant repetition over the last twenty years. The RNC devotes much more money and many more man-hours to defining the democratic party than the democratic party does.

2. Committing resources to defining the republican party. This should be targeted at the millions of decent Americans who vote republican even though they find people like Pat Robertson and Tom DeLay and Grover Norquist to be disgusting. These millions of decent Americans are the people the Reich wing fundamentalists and the Tax Cut Monkeys call RINOs. The RINOs are hated with a virulence and visciousness by the republican base that is typical of their attitude towards all Americans who dare to differ with their political theology. These millions of decent Americans need to be stripped out of the republican party by persuading them the party has left them in its march towards a fanatical hatred of RINOs.

3. Committing resources to pursuing the dozen or so most clear cut cases of criminal acts committed by Bush or others in his administration. If Bush wins, this will have to be done by private organizations and individuals since the republicans would still control the DOJ and both houses of Congress.

4. Committing resources to winning State legislative seats and Governorships with an eye towards having more influence and control over Congressional redistricting following the 2010 census.

If Bush wins, the entire country should devote the next four years to developing a stronger pretzel.

FIRE THE LIAR

[senseandsensibility]

15. Great strategies.

Very well thought out. I hope you e-mailed them to the Democratic Party.