Russert on NBC poll: "Kerry isn't connecting with the American People"

[girl gone mad]

According to Russert, the poll is bad news for Kerry pretty much all around.

What I don't get is how Russert can spin it as a bad thing that people say they don't know where Kerry stands, and yet he is essentially even with Bush.

I see this as only good for Kerry. Once they start listening to his message, he has a chance to win more people over. Everybody already knows Bush wants to "stay the course". Bush has little opportunity to win people over, unless he drastically changes his message.

[Rockholm]

1. America on Russert: Nobody's watching you.

Your ratings suck and so do you.

[BootinUp]

2. they will spin for Bush right to the end.

Count on it.

[liberalnurse]

3. Media whores like Russert......

are doing a damn good job of blocking the Kerry message. That is their job......they are nothing but punk-whores.

[cthrumatrix]

4. translation --- GE owned media "desperate" to keep awol in office

funny how the same poll said that 52% americans don't think the Iraq war worth the lives or the money spent to take out saddam.

Russert is a "cafeteria whore"...picks and chooses his point for the "puppet".

[Blue_Roses]

5. I saw that and thought it's Russert who is so out of touch

he will do anything to make Bush look good. He always criticizes Kerry. I have never heard him say one nice thing about him. He's just a Bush shill

[sandnsea]

6. No, it's just recycled gibberish

This is what they were saying 6 months ago. It's just like the war, they recycle talking points and keep the people confused. When all else fails, the people don't know where Kerry stands. I wish people would just shut off their damned tv's if they're going to believe everything these asshats have to say.

[democrat in Tallahassee]

7. I honestly can't figure this out. They are tied and Kerry is rising

and Bush is sinking and it's bad news for Kerry? There truly is only one explanation: Russert thy name is whore.

[robbedvoter]

8. Propaganda disguised as reports = polls

[Supersedeas]

24. You put your finger on it exactly Rob--other than Polls--TV Media is quiet

[MrBenchley]

9. And yet Kerry pulls the BIG enthusiastic crowds....

and Cheney and his Chimp are hiding in tiny halls, able to appear only before chumps willing to sign loyalty oaths...and even then they're getting confronted by people who have lost loved ones on 9/11 or in Iraq and want answers.

[Mad_Dem_X]

11. If they'd show footage of the crowds...

viewers would see that Kerry draws huge crowds, and doesn't make any of them sign "loyalty oaths"!:kick:

[MrBenchley]

28. Even if they don't....

there are people in those crowds....

[zulchzulu]

10. Half the electorate "isn't connecting".... Thanks, Timmy

Nearly all the polls have Bush and Kerry even. So by Timmy's skewed lens, either they don't exist or he picked up some old copy laying on the floor from December, 2003.

Look at the date on top of the page, Timmy. The date now should be September 22, 2004 or so. Not December 15, 2003.

See? Good, Timmy.

[The Backlash Cometh]

12. Oh, yeah and Bush is like one of us, <snicker>

Bush is nothing but smoke and mirrors. The rest of the world knows it and we will be hurt as a country if he gets re-elected.

[drscm]

13. Network reports polls. Says "People don't know where Kerry stands."

It's sad and hilarious that the news is that "People don't know where Kerry stands" when it's the news' theoretical responsibility to inform us where he stands.

Nothing liking promoting that your organization has failed in its mission, which I would have believed included keeping people informed of a candidate's stand on the issues. Instead, they only report on the advertising and polls, and not the positions of the politicians.

[Triana]

14. bullshit

...Kerry is connecting on so many levels with so many American People it's amazing.

Russert is a reich-wingnut mediawhore dujour and is spinning in the direction his masters tell him to. People KNOW where Kerry stands, Kerry tells them in every speech he makes and on his websites.

JUST BECAUSE THE REPUBLICAN-OWNED AND RUN media doesn't COVER Kerry's speeches and Kerry/Democratic events doesn't mean Kerry isn't 'connecting' with the American People. YOU KNOW WHO isn't 'connecting' with the American People?

THE GODDAMNED MEDIA - that's who. Russert especially.

It has nothing to do with Kerry. It has everything to do with Russert and the whole passel of mediaslutz who don't bother to cover Kerry's campaign and Kerry's message - then they sit there and whine that 'Kerry isn't connecting...' HA!

What utter disingenuousness and hypocrisy - not that one could expect any less from the Repuglican-owned and run Wal-Mart media we have.

They're about as useful as shit on a pump handle to the American People...

[2Design]

15. kerry is connecting with people - just not corporate media

[giant_robot]

16. Read today's Auntie Pinko

It's a good take on the polling situation:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/auntie/04/151.html

[kodi]

35. auntie's link detailing the right wing propaganda machine is outstanding.

http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/2004/Republican-Propaganda1sep04.htm

between that link and dave neiwert's stuff on Orcinus.com you get a fairly good picture of the manipulation of public opinion and manufacture of consent in america.

[skooooo]

17. Tim's projecting his own problem onto Kerry.

It's Tim who's not connecting.

[Lex]

18. Ughh . . . I heard Russert ripping Kerry big time this morning

I flipped the tv on and I the first thing I heard was Russert saying,

"This is bad news for the Kerry campaign in a HUGE way."

I thought, 'Oh no, what happened' thinking something terrible had happened overnight.

Then Russert goes on to say that "CLEARLY, the Kerry campaign isn't connecting with voters to have numbers like this, they should be worried," and on and on.

So it turns out the poll is essentially TIED, right?

What was Russert going on about? He had not even a hint of a negative remark against Bush even though they next showed a poll showing only 9% of people polled thought his 2nd term should be anything like his 1st. Russert explained this away for Bush.

Truly amazing.

[unfrigginreal]

19. The same Russert that bellowed the inside the beltway CW...

that Gore should concede, the day after the election. Yes, Mr. Russert, someone is not connecting with the majority of the American People. A little mirror time is probably in order.

[Merlin]

20. Kerry is NOT a great communicator. We're stuck with a problem.

JK is a pompous orator who can't find it within him to speak in syllables that can be grasped by the average person. He is aloof and superior in his tone. He comes off as a guy who thinks he is special.

We knew all that before we nominated the guy.

If you don't believe me, watch John Stewart. He nails JK's effete approach.

Fact is that, no matter what, he's a thousand times better than Bush.

But when we discuss this kind of thing, let's first stay true to what we know.

What we hope for is that he will beat Bush despite these shortcomings.

[Name removed]

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[dennis4868]

30. Hey Rove....

shut up and stop surfing on the internet. You have an election to lose in November....

[rullery]

33. We usually welcome newbies to DU,

but in your case, Disraeli_2004, it is clear that you are only out to discredit our candidate, John Kerry. Attempting to hide your true identity by pretending to be a Howard Dean supporter doesn't cut it IMO. Bye-bye!

[Chelsea Patriot]

42. "Well, Bye-bye, Sugar...And Not A Minute Too Soon!"

[NightOwwl]

37. He just held a news conference.

Nothing aloof or superior in his tone this time. Just total anger and disgust at Bush and his handling of Iraq.

[deutsey]

21. Threre is a reason why Russert got to interview Fearless Leader

one-on-one, and it wasn't due to his journalistic integrity.

:eyes:

[spanone]

22. He needs to get in a car with Bill Schnieder and drive off a cliff.

These people don't know jack.

[realFedUp]

23. We don't need a love connection, we need a lifeline

John Kerry is one nice guy...has good manners,
is bright, can put whole thoughts into proper
sentences...is a good dad and husband, looks
like a founding father and will hire good moral
people in his administration and will boot
Bush's butt back to Waco.

We don't need a love connection, we need a lifeline.

[jackstraw45]

25. REMEMBER: GE is making BILLIONS in defense contracts - a SLIGHT conflict

wouldn't you say?

They have tripled their profits off of the wars of Bush. We're talking BILLIONS here folks.

So NBC WILL whore for Bush but they are REALLY whores for GE.

[no name no slogan]

34. But Kerry's not cutting the DOD's budget

...nor will he be ending the Iraq occupation in the near future, either. In fact, GE may even make out BETTER under a Democratic administration, because a Dem who cuts the military budget will catch a lot more hell for being "weak on defense" than any Republican ever will. And no Democrat wants to be weak on defense, do they?

No matter what party wins, the military contractors will still get paid-- handsomely. Nobody is calling for a reduction in Pentagon spending, or the cancellation of major weapons projects. Hell, even Paul Wellstone in 2002 voted to keep the unneeded Crusader weapons program alive, because it meant jobs for Minnesota.

They don't call it the Military-Industrial Complex for nothing.

[no name no slogan]

26. Two weeks ago, maybe-- but not today

Russert may have a point-- if his statement was made a couple weeks ago. But Kerry has gone on the offensive on Dubya and the Iraq fiasco-- and he's connecting more and more with the American people.

Before Kerry started pounding Dubya on Iraq, you would see rising negatives for Dubya-- but would not see rising positives for Kerry. However, with Kerry becoming more and more critical about Iraq (and actually taking shots at Dubya, too), you'll soon see those anti-Dubya voters become strong Kerry supporters.

There's still a lot of anti-Bush people who are not Kerry supporters. These are people who will vote for Kerry, but won't do much else. It's now the campaign's job to turn them from Kerry voters into Kerry supporters-- people who will volunteer, spread the word, and actively encourage others to vote for Kerry, too.

[blm]

29. Has Russert EVER reported the RECORD crowd sizes Kerry is getting?

Kerry's crowd sizes have been DOUBLE and TRIPLE Bush's crowds and Russert and other traitors to democracy REFUSE to report it.

They WANT the public to believe that it's NOT happening. They are TRAITORS to this country. They are Royalists, loyal only to the Bush family.

[Cha]

31. RUSSERT! YOU ARE A MEDIAWHORE!

KERRY IS GOING TO WIN AND YOU CAN TAKE YOUR SILLY POLLS AND CONSOLE YOURSELF IN THE NEAREST BAR!

[UnityDem]

32. Please e-mail this thread to NBC/Russert

for someone who knows how & has their e-mail addresses:
Please e-mail this thread to both NBC New York and to Russert (if you can get access to his address). Think it would be interesting to let him know what this board thinks. Who knows, he might even reply. At least, we let him know that not everyone buys his line.
thanks in advance to anyone who does this.

[gauguin57]

36. Last night, on a rerun of "West Wing" from last season ...

... CJ didn't want Abigail to go on "Meet the Press" about practicing medicine, because, she said, "About three people watch Meet the Press."

Interesting, for an NBC show to admit that, but, hey ...

[Cha]

39. Wow! How'd they get that line past

the censor on their own tv station?!!

[WI_DEM]

38. how can Kerry being 3-points down be bad news

isn't that an improvement over their previous poll?

[barbaraann]

40. Bush has been on tv nonstop since 2000.

Cable news has basically been GOP news since the stolen election while the Dem message has been buried, distored, and ridiculed.

I would guess that about 2,000 Bush propaganda events and ten million hours of GOP propaganda have been broadcast in the last four years.

[BurtWorm]

41. I HAAAAAAATE pronouncements like that!

Especially from gasbags like Russert. Oooh, I hate that Russert!