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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-21-07 01:13 PM
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what is the matter with lisa madigan??


from planned parenthood-

Despite an outcry from you and hundreds of other pro-choice advocates in Illinois, Attorney General Lisa Madigan went to federal court today to begin the process of lifting an injunction against a defunct parental notification law. This law would require young women to notify a parent - or go before a judge - prior to terminating a pregnancy. We are extremely disappointed with the Attorney General's decision and consider this parental notification law to put the health of teens at risk. While parental notification is not currently in effect in Illinois, these actions are steps toward reviving the Parental Notification Act.

Planned Parenthood will continue to oppose this dangerous 1995 parental notification law and we thank you for your support on this important issue.

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ya know, i always want to like women candidates. i tried to like lisa. she was surrounded by some great supporters. she said so many of the right things. but :wtf: is this shit?

other opinions about lisa?
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dogman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-21-07 01:57 PM
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1. I don't see her as a friend of the Fourth Ammendment.
She seems to feel the government belongs in our lives.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-21-07 02:27 PM
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2. the entitlement of inheritance
the state of illinois seems to be full of people who think they are monarchs, apparently. full of themselves.
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Bridget Dooley Donating Member (113 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-21-07 08:41 PM
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3. I heard about this...
...and am disappointed in her, to put it mildly. I suspect this is her trying to throw a bone to IL conservatives in preparing to run for Governor. It's totally unnecessary.
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kevsand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-21-07 10:28 PM
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4. I think everyone's reading this all wrong.
Edited on Sun Jan-21-07 11:07 PM by kevsand
1) She's upholding the law, which is her job. Like it or not, the Parental Notification Act is still on the books, and the delineation of the guidelines by the Illinois Supreme Court has removed the salient objection which formed the original basis for the federal injunction. Her actions in this instance are strictly by the book.

2) I think she is deliberately forcing the issue in the hope that the resulting flurry of court activity and/or public outcry will remove the Parental Notification Act for good. It can either be stricken entirely by the courts once and for all (which they did not do previously), or it can be overturned by the now Democratic majority in both chambers of the General Assembly. At a minumum, I suspect there may be a new injunction formulated forthwith.

It is important to remember several facts about this. First of all, the act was never defunct, as apparently alleged by Planned Parenthood. The injunction temporarily blocked its implementation for specific reasons. The Act was always still there, waiting for the day when the injunction might be ended.

Secondly, if I remember this correctly, it was passed by a General Assembly that had Republican majorities in both chambers, and signed by a Republican governor. We have neither of those now, but the current state government has never reversed the legislation, preferring instead to duck a controversial issue by hiding behind the injunction.

Finally, even the brief scan I did of the front pages of the two Chicago dailies over the weekend indicated that Madigan had clearly expressed her own personal dismay over the measure, and her deep regret at being forced by the law to take these actions. She's the Attorney General, fer chrissakes. I think she's hoping to force the issue to finally get a satisfactory resolution; i.e., the final revocation of the Act.

I would much rather have an Attorney General who respects the rule of law, even when it is temporarily traumatic, than one who ignores the rules to suit her own tastes. We can't bash Gonzales and BushCo for their trampling of the rules, and then turn around and bash Madigan for failing to emulate their example.

(Edited to correct a couple of typos...)
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mohinoaklawnillinois Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-21-07 11:01 PM
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5. Well said, kevsand..
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

As much as I despise her father, Mike, Lisa strikes me as a realDemocrat, unlike her aforementioned father.

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Bridget Dooley Donating Member (113 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 08:16 AM
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6. You're probably right, kevsand
I hope you're right. The law would be a piece of cake to change with the current balance of the general assembly and the state senate. And Blago is as pro-choice as they come, so he won't be an issue either.

Thanks for putting this in perspective.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 11:04 AM
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7. what bridget said. nt
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Bridget Dooley Donating Member (113 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 09:02 AM
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8. Fritchey's bill
Rep. John Fritchey has introduced legislation that makes a little bit more sense, expanding notification to other adults aside from parents.

http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/BillStatus.asp?DocTypeID=HB&DocNum=317&GAID=9&SessionID=51&LegID=27079

I'd prefer no notification, but this is better than the existing law.

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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 09:12 AM
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9. She's A Disapointment
The whole nonsense about having to sign for pseudoephedrine was her idea. (Yeah, i know. NOW it's federal law.) But, you know what! Like a typical grandstanding pol, she hasn't analyzed the data that shows that meth use is as bad as ever. So, this law ACCOMPLISHED NOTHING! Yet, she still rides along as if she has done well.

Disappointing, indeed.
The Professor
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AtLiberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 10:34 AM
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10. Madigan is Republican Lite
In Illinois, there is no strong distinction between Republican and Democrat, at least on that level.

There are other examples, both Democrat AND Republican, which have made me scratch my head...

Face it, Madigan wants to be governor in the not-so-distant future. She believes she'll need assistance from the Republicans.
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dogfacedboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 12:31 AM
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11. Illinois has ALWAYS been a very centrist state.
Whether a politician has an R or a D behind their name has never mattered much. Most have never strayed far from that center line.
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