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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 04:28 PM
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Governor Quinn wants to hear from the public re: DP bill
from email from Illinois Coalition to Abolish the Death Penalty:

He has indicated that he will take at least 30 days to weigh his decision, and he wants to hear from the public.

Please call Governor Quinn to ask him to sign the death penalty repeal bill.

You can say, "I want to encourage Gov. Quinn to sign the legislation to end the death penalty."

Chicago Office - 312-814-2121
Springfield Office - 217-782-0244

If you don't get through to a person or voicemail, please try again.

Thank you.
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 01:05 AM
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1. please care enough to call. thank you. kick. nt
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mucifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 09:26 PM
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2. K and R

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dem3550 Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 08:19 PM
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21.  +1
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wclarkfan_1978 Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 04:41 PM
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24.  +1
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udbcrzy2 Donating Member (572 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 02:13 AM
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3. I would like to see reform, but keep the Death Penalty
Right now Illinois has 15 death row inmates. The appeals process takes decades. They need to work on that. If the guy turns out to be innocent then he will be found innocent sooner. The guilty ones will face justice sooner. I just wish you would go to a meeting of homicide survivors and talk to the victim's family. These guys didn't just murder, this is aggravated murder, dismembering a body, multiple stab wounds, slashing someone's throat, raping and murdering a child. They don't get here by just murdering, it's aggravated murder. I'd rather see activists working toward helping the victims instead of the criminals.
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 03:25 AM
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5. please look into the bill. it redirects resources to victims' services
that are badly needed.
as for the death penalty, you just refuse to recognize that abolition is NOT ABOUT the murderers.

if it worked as you wished it did, that might be another story, but IT DOES NOT.
there is NO CONSTITUTIONAL WAY to implement a death penalty.

as implemented in this country, it is legalized lynching. you don't give a shit about that?
to care only about vengeance, ignoring the racist and classist ATROCITIES of capital punishment, makes one no different than those monsters you describe. do you get that?

now please, unless you will do work of finding out about it, do not bring your hateful lectures to my threads.

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udbcrzy2 Donating Member (572 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 03:54 PM
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7. You want to silence my speech because I oppose your view?
I'm not being hateful, I'm being honest and pointing to the facts. Not everyone shares your point of view. That's what I thought a blog was, so that people can share their point of view, not to just do a 'PROMO' for criminals. Your other threads about this has a website where you can actually become penpals with these guys. To me that is very disturbing and very dangerous. Would you invite one of these guys to your home to meet your family?
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Wabbajack_ Donating Member (669 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 08:50 PM
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20. "Aggravated" murder
It's pretty aggravating for the victims no matter how they're killed.
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wclarkfan_1978 Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 04:42 PM
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25.  +100
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udbcrzy2 Donating Member (572 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 02:21 AM
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4. Here are the 15 death row inmates in Illinois
Rodney Adkins
Was sentenced to death for the brutal 2003 murder of Oak Park resident Catherine McAvinchey

Tedoro Baez
Sentenced to death for the 1999 double murder in which the victims were dismembered with a samurai sword after a drug dispute near Chicago.

Dion Banks
Sentenced to death for the 2001 shooting death of a woman in front of her two young sons during a carjacking in the Ford City Mall parking lot.

Joseph Bannister
Sentenced to death for wounding his ex-girlfriend and killing her sister during a 2000 attack in Chicago's Logan Square neighborhood.

David Damm
Was sentenced to death for the murder of 13-year-old Donnisha Hill.

Brian Dugan
Convicted and Sentenced to Death for the 1983 rape and murder of Jeanine Nicarico.During the penalty trial, DuPage County prosecutors described the day in 1983 when Jeanine, home sick from school, was abducted from her Naperville home. They presented chilling details, starting with the fingernail marks the struggling child left on a wall as she struggled to free herself from Dugan's grasp.Jurors heard how her raped and beaten body was found two days later in a nearby nature preserve, her head still wrapped in the towel and duct tape Dugan had used to blindfold her.
Sentenced to Death 11/11/09.

Eric Hanson
Was sentened to death for the murders of his parents, sister and brother-in-law in 2005.

Ricardo Harris
Sentenced to death for the 1999 murder of two Oak Lawn liquor store clerks during an attempted burglary, in which two customers also were injured.

Laurence Lovejoy
Sentenced to death for the rape and murder of his 16-year-old stepdaughter, Erin Justice, in 2004 in Aurora.

Anthony B. Mertz
Sentenced to death for the 2001 murder of Rolling Meadows native Shannon McNamara, 21, in her off-campus apartment at Eastern Illinois University.

Gary Pate
Was sentenced to death in March 2008 in White County Circuit Court in connection with the May 15, 2006, shooting death of his estranged wife, Kathleen Pate, and of Kathleen's 19-year-old daughter, Amanda Jeffers,

Daniel Ramsey
Sentended to death for the July 1996 shooting deaths of two girls, ages 16 and 12, and wounding his former girlfriend and three toddlers in Hancock County.

Paul Runge
Sentenced to death for the rapes and murders of a woman and her 10-year-old daughter in their Chicago apartment in 1997.

Cecil Sutherland
Sentenced to death for the 1987 abduction, rape and murder of 10-year-old Amy Schulz, of Kell, Ill., in Jefferson County.

Edward Tenney
After hearing testimony about Edward Tenney's career of crime for three weeks, a DuPage County jury has decided that he should be put to death for the 1992 murder of an Aurora man he shot in the head four times for the $6 in his pocket.
The jury made its decision after less than three hours of deliberation. Tenney stared at the jury as they were polled but had no other outward reaction. The victim's family was not in the courtroom.
Tenney was convicted Feb. 24 of the April 16, 1992, first-degree murder and armed robbery of Jerry Weber, 24 of Aurora.
Weber, the father of two sons, ages two years and three months, was fatally shot four times in the head at close range by Tenney, who came across the victim as his van was stuck in the mud in an Aurora farm field.
The two had never met before.
Tenney has also been previously convicted of the 1993 murders of two Kane County widows in their homes during separate home robberies and is serving two life sentences for those crimes. If he doesn't get the death penalty for the Weber murder, he will automatically receive a third life sentence.
The main evidence against Tenney included the testimony of his cousin, Donald Lippert, who accompanied Tenney on all three murders. Lippert is serving an 80-year sentence.
Sentenced to Death 3/9/10.

Andrew Urdiales
Sentended to death for the 1996 murder of a 21-year-old Hammond woman in Livingston County.
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 03:36 AM
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6. do you have some god-like ability to determine who has been
tortured into false confessions, or who was convicted under the prosecutorial misconduct that is rampant all over this state, and this country?

no. you don't. neither do i. neither does any human.

get it yet?

railroading people to the death chamber is first degree murder. those who do it are no different than the actually-guilty monsters of those you describe.

get it yet?

please. i cared, and i expressed that to you before. but then you use that vile mental-cruelty of being violently graphic again. re-traumatizing another victim, is what you are doing, and don't care that you are doing. i have no more compassion to give someone who couldn't care less about others' well-being.

i will not reply again.
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udbcrzy2 Donating Member (572 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 04:03 PM
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8. I don't think that's true to all on death row
After decades of appeals, new trial after new trial why didn't the evidence come out? Maybe because these guys are guilty and if you don't read the appeals and just rely on media coverage then you won't know the facts in the case. You especially won't know the facts if you rely solely on the websites of the attorneys and families of the criminal for your facts. I think they all plead not guilty and then they have a jury decide the facts.

When they have DNA, fingerprints, eyewitnesses, etc. how can that be a lie? The problem is the appeals process. Justice delayed is justice denied - I think you can at least agree with that. You won't reply again because you're just doing a PROMO and I realize that.
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udbcrzy2 Donating Member (572 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 05:09 PM
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9. Some facts in the cases above - you should take a look on why?
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 03:19 PM
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11. Your responses in this thread are really out of line
You are making nasty personal attacks against another poster who disagrees with you. It's not called for and it does not help your 'cause.' Get it yet?
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-11 07:38 AM
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13. ne'mind. what's it to you this person re-victimizes me, following me
Edited on Tue Feb-01-11 07:55 AM by nofurylike
around to do it?

do you get that?

also, it is not my cause. it is the cause of anyone who will not tolerate legalized lynching.

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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-11 02:28 PM
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14. "Re-victimize" you? Because they disagree?
My God, people need to learn how to separate arguments from personal assaults on this frakking website.
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-11 05:17 PM
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15. by repeatedly slamming with explicit, viciously violent images
that have nothing to do with the discussion.
- entirely to provoke fierce and painful responses that many already live with, constantly, but still understand DO NOT JUSTIFY allowing lyching to be legalized.

and on that note, i have more than enough to handle devoted to EQUAL JUSTICE to spend any more time educating those who have no intention of even considering the truth.



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udbcrzy2 Donating Member (572 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 02:50 AM
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16. That is what I want you to see is the truth
I have posted the appeals to some of the death row inmates so that you could actually see the facts in the case and not rely on sources that are slanted. Those appeals do have graphic details that are not pleasant. Murder is not pretty, aggravated murder is even uglier.
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DaveJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-11 06:57 PM
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17. Argument to repeal the DP
I don't follow this issue but here is my quick off the cuff response to this debate.

1) Those appeals cost money. And I doubt the appeal process can be reduced. Simple life in prison would be simpler and probably cost less than the legal process.

2) The appeal process is cruel and inhumane. Again, just keep it simple. Life in prison, separated from less violent criminals.

3) Death is too good for them. They are getting off easy with the DP. Keep them in prison and perhaps let them work for their keep.

4) There is no satisfaction in revenge killings. It doesn't make us better people, or undo the harm they caused.

5) The DP harms the innocent. It is an emotional detriment to watch it, and to create machines that cause death. Death is not something civilized people should be involved in.

Just my quick observations.
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mucifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 08:45 AM
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10. I'm getting bummed that Gov Quinn hasn't signed it yet.
I'm trying to get all the people I know to call.
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-11 07:27 AM
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12. thank you so very much, mucifer! me too. please keep on! nt
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dem3550 Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 08:19 PM
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22.  +100
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-11 09:13 AM
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18. I called Governor Quinn's office a couple of weeks ago about this.
I practically begged him (ok, the nice staffer I talked to) to sign the legislation.

Illinois has had a moritorium on the death penalty in place for several years now. Time to formally abolish this.
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Rochester Donating Member (486 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 03:02 AM
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19. Can anyone tell me...
...how much time PQ has left to sit on the bill before he has to act or it passes/fails by default?
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 10:04 PM
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23. Governor Quinn expected to sign death penalty repeal tomorrow.
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wclarkfan_1978 Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 04:42 PM
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26. great news
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