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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 11:23 PM
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Does Tasini feel only response to terrorists in no response beyond words
if such response can be expected to involve the deaths of someone other than the terrorist who shot, or kidnapped, or fired a missile, and those in that terrorist's chain of command.

Tasini states Hillary is no friend if Israel because he, Tasini, supports (per http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jonathan-tasini/touching-the-third-rail-_b_25859.html where he references http://www.btselem.org/English/Israeli) the Israeli human rights organization, B’Tselem's statement that Israel must "respect the principle of proportionality and refrain from attacks that would cause excessive harm to civilians" (which sounds Good to me and is something I believe everyone on DU supports), compared to Hillary Clinton's condemnation of the Hez/Syrian/Iranian terrorists where she will not condemn the response to those terrorists.

If per Tasini Israel has a bad response to terrorism should Tasini go on to say what would be a good response. Given, as the UN has noted, the fact that the Hez terrorists use the Hez sympathizers as human shields, isn't Tasini saying the only response to terror is to use words to complain? If Tasini has a stronger response in mind as a permitted response to terror, shouldn't he say what that response is? What kind of a spine (Tasini says "we need a real opposition party, a Democratic Party with a vision that has the spine to stand for something authentic and honest.") does a person have who responds to terrorist acts with words only.

Or is Tasini claiming the Israel knows exactly where each member of the Hez terrorist militia is located and that Israel has bombs that can hit those locations without causing harm to other folks or their property?

Indeed what is the more moral response - the one that requires more backbone - the one that shows a person that stands by their conscience?

Is "supporting terrorists" by vetoing any attack on them if that attack might cause harm to those supporting/harboring (after electing to Parliament) those terrorists that want to kill every man, women and child that is a Jew because those terrorists say that us the only result they will accept as a reason to end their terror against the Jews - is that showing more spine/morals than that shown by someone that says do your best to avoid civilian deaths but have at it as best you can and best wishes in your attack on the terrorists?

Indeed Tasini's attack on Hillary Clinton's IWR vote - claiming that means she is an Iraq "war supporter" - seems to me to be missing Tasini noting that while Hillary does not say that, knowing what she knows now, she would have voted no on IWR, or even that she believes misleading information was used to launch the war in Iraq (saying "I know my husband received the same intelligence information), she does say "the real question is have we obtained accurate information (in 2003), or have the findings been altered for military or political purposes?"

That is not the same as the Bush/GOP no errors were made stance. Indeed it is not the same as Bush's keep the troops in Iraq through 2016.

Tasini's "the troops must be brought home now" and his assertion that all arguments against doing so are myths, along with his assertion that Clinton "supports the war" and "supports the idea that there is a "winning" strategy for the war", like his Israeli policy, needs a bit more detail. What goal for Iraq does Hillary support that justifies the statement that Hillary supports the war? Is Tasini saying Hillary is in favor of being at war? Is Tasini saying support for the troops is bad, or that support for the elected government of Iraq is bad, or that redeploying troops to Kuwait is not as good as "the troops must be brought home now"?

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GAPeace Donating Member (314 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 12:32 AM
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1. I saw Hillary in person, she said that the war was improving womens' right
At that point I realized that her position was one of prowar, staunch prowar support. She is very proud of the war.

3 months later I had two iraqi unionists tell me the war had destroyed womens' rights, sending their status "back past the 1950's."

I trusted the Iraqis.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 04:43 AM
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2. I don't agree with Tasini on Israel but I don't vote Israel's interests.
I vote American interests. Sorry, Hillary.
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