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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 08:49 PM
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What's Texas' Sign? Capricorn.
For those interested in astrology, the planets Pluto and Jupiter will be transiting through Capricorn (Jupiter for about one year and Pluto for about 16 years). Jupiter is expansive, Pluto brings down the walls in order to rebuild out of the ashes...death and rebirth. Ought to be an interesting ride. I can imagine one major scenario along these lines is the bottoming out of the oil industry (in fact there is an article in Tx.M about peak oil and water this month as well).
http://www.texasmonthly.com/2008-02-01/index.php


Excerpt from an article from the latest issue of Texas Monthly Magazine, about a 36 year veteran of astrology, Nan Hall Linke, who lives in Texas:

...You wanted to know about the future of Texas, so I made a chart. Texas was born on December 29, 1845, which means that it is a Capricorn. What I did is I progressed the chart to 2008, to see where things were headed. What’s interesting is that Texas has the planet Jupiter in the sign Taurus, which rules agriculture and animal husbandry. What that says to me is that the future of our state is still in our land—whether it’s oil or wind farming or whatever. The strongest element in the state’s chart is earth, and it’s in a new moon, which is associated with leaders and pioneers, so we should see more innovation. None of that is very surprising. But something did amaze me when I looked at this. I said, “Well, if I didn’t know better, I’d say that this state is going to go Democratic!” Jupiter goes into Capricorn in 2008, and the last time Jupiter was in Capricorn, the state went Republican. Amazing, huh? That’s what astrology does. It helps us see the invisible.

http://www.texasmonthly.com/2008-02-01/theworkinglife.php

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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 08:58 PM
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1. Thanks for the insight, Dover
:)

I feel this state moving back into the D column bit by bit, day by day.

dg
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:05 PM
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2. Welcome. Yep, Pluto will dredge up a lot of corruption. Lots to be revealed.
Edited on Tue Jan-29-08 10:00 PM by Dover

And I'm sure the end of the oil barons will be one such shift, along with BIG political/gov. changes. Perhaps our whole model of government.
New energy behemoths attempting to own the wind, the sun and the water will likely take their place unless people rise up against them.

And, perhaps, the latest stink about the Tx. Supremes, and the gov. "good hair" email debacle is just the raw beginnings of the take down.
Wouldn't Molly Ivins be proud!!!
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 10:01 PM
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4. BTW - for those wanting access to the other TX. Monthly Articles...>
The access code is "alamo". That's all you need to read them.
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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:38 PM
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3. I'm all for tearing down walls and rebuilding
I am so tired of the stench - the smell of stale, stodgy, republicans.

If the heavens are up for helping us achieve the right alignment of planets and stars to clean house and get back to protecting our land in Texas, we're ready for a rebirth.

:dem:

Sonia
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 08:41 AM
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5. Wait! I thoughty Texas' birthday was March 2, 1836
Independence Day
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 12:44 PM
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6. Tx. entered the union as the 28th state on the Dec. 29th date.
Edited on Wed Jan-30-08 01:22 PM by Dover
That's when it achieved 'official' statehood. Before that it was a sovereign state that had broken away from Mexico. Independence from Mexico was a first step that eventually led to full partnership in the union. So astrologically you might say that March 2 Independence was the day of conception and Dec. 29th was the date of birth as a full state entity in its current form.

From Wikipedia:

The Republic of Texas was a sovereign state in North America between the United States and Mexico that existed from 1836 to 1845. Formed as a break-away republic from Mexico by the Texas Revolution, the nation claimed borders that encompassed an area that included all of the present U.S. state of Texas, as well as parts of present-day New Mexico, Oklahoma, Kansas, Colorado, and Wyoming based upon the Treaties of Velasco between the newly created Texas republic and Mexico. The eastern boundary with the United States was defined by the Adams-Onís Treaty between the United States and Spain, in 1819. Its southern and western-most boundary with Mexico was under dispute throughout the existence of the Republic, with Texas claiming that the boundary was the Rio Grande, and Mexico claiming the Nueces River as the boundary. This dispute would later become a trigger for the Mexican–American War, after the annexation of Texas.

..snip..

On February 28, 1845, the U.S. Congress passed a bill that would authorize the United States to annex the Republic of Texas. On March 1 U.S. President John Tyler signed the bill. The legislation set the date for annexation for December 29 of the same year. Faced with imminent American annexation of Texas, Charles Elliot and Alphonse de Saliny, the British and French ministers to Texas, were dispatched to Mexico City by their governments. Meeting together with Mexico's foreign secretary, they signed a "Diplomatic Act" which offered Mexican recognization of Texas independence, with boundaries that would be determined with French and English mediation. Texas President Jones forwarded both offers to a specially elected convention meeting at Austin, and the American proposal was accepted with only one dissenting vote. The Mexican proposal was never put to a vote. Following the previous decree of President Jones, the proposal was then put to a national vote.

On October 13, 1845 a large majority of voters in the Republic approved both the American offer and the proposed constitution that specifically endorsed slavery and the slave trade. This constitution was later accepted by the U.S. Congress, making Texas a U.S. state on the same day annexation took effect, December 29, 1845 (therefore bypassing a territorial phase)<1>. One of the motivations for annexation (besides the primary one of desiring to be united with their perceived Anglo-American ethno-cultural brethren of the United States and their Anglo-American brethren of "the South" regional-cultural was that the Texas government had incurred huge debts which the United States agreed to assume upon annexation. In 1852, in return for this assumption of debt, a large portion of Texas-claimed territory, now parts of Colorado, Kansas, Oklahoma, New Mexico, and Wyoming, was ceded to the Federal government.

The annexation resolution has been the topic of some incorrect historical beliefs— one that remains is that the resolution granted Texas the explicit right to secede from the Union. This was a right argued by some to be implicitly held by all states at the time, up until the conclusion of the Civil War. The resolution did include two unique provisions: first, it said that up to four additional states could be created from Texas's territory, with the consent of the State of Texas. The resolution did not include any special exceptions to the provisions of the US Constitution regarding statehood. The right to create these possible new states was not "reserved" for Texas, as is sometimes stated. <2>. Second, Texas did not have to surrender its public lands to the federal government. While Texas did cede all territory outside of its current area to the federal government in 1850, it did not cede any public lands within its current boundaries. This means that generally, the only lands owned by the federal government within Texas have actually been purchased by the government. This also means that the state government has control over oil reserves which were later used to fund the state's public university system. In addition, the state's control over offshore oil reserves in Texas runs out to 3 leagues (10.357015 miles) rather than three miles (5 km) as with other states <3>.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Texas
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 02:07 PM
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7. Independence takes precedence over statehood
December 29, rather than a "birthday', is more fittingly a day of mourning marking extinguishing our full independent sovereignty.

And astrology is bunk.
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 04:04 PM
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8. Remember the alamo!.........hehehe..n/t
Edited on Wed Jan-30-08 04:06 PM by Dover
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 08:33 PM
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9. Texas rooted in the land.


I was thinking about what this Pluto/Capricorn energy might mean to Texas and to the U.S.
If it could draw more on its deep roots in the land I can see how that connection to nature might become very important to the development of natural systems, sustainable living practices, stewardship in general and a new form of governance.
Becoming better stewards of the Earth is one way to bring in the feminine energies as well (which might be hard to imagine good ol'boy Texans being capable of!). But there are many signs of things moving in that direction, from Statewide programs like 'wildlife management' to xeriscaping, to water laws that encourage reuse and collection, to green building (we're a leader in that area), and even people moving onto their mini-ranchettes...as horrendous as that has been for the land and water resources, has been a reintroduction for many into the beauty and pleasures of living closer to the earth. And the Mexican American community bring an invaluable connection to the earth with them as they relocate in Texas. As the borders between Tex./Mexico are swung wider open for trade, that influence will grow even more.
So when I think about all this I muster some hope that Texas will suffer a death of the sort that Pluto brings, and will in the next two decades or so be reborn as a teacher, a model, a steward of the land.
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