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Caro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 09:49 AM
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Hillary Clinton is inspiring—AND practical.

If you haven't seen this, watch and you'll understand why we need Hillary
http://blog.radioleft.com/blog/_archives/2008/2/16/3526705.html

Carolyn Kay
MakeThemAccountable.com
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 10:27 AM
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1. AND Wrong
Wrong on NAFTA

Wrong on Irag

Wrong on Iran

Wrong on Campaign Finance

Wrong on Health Care
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Caro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 12:17 PM
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3. If you think Obama's much different, then think again.
We Illinois progressives sent Obama to the U.S. Senate, where he promptly joined the Joe Lieberman wing of the Democratic Party.
http://progressivepunch.yvod.com/members.jsp?member=HI1&search=selectScore&chamber=Senate&zip=&x=43&y=9

He’s not a progressive.
http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?ItemID=11936

But he’s a master at pretending to be one.
http://www.blackagendareport.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=463&Itemid=34

"Obama is a company man.”
http://www.blackagendareport.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=251&Itemid=34

Barack Obama Inc.: The birth of a Washington machine
http://www.harpers.org/archive/2006/11/0081275

His economic advisers are very conservative, from the University of Chicago-Milton Friedman school of economics.
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080211/fraser

My favorite economist, Paul Krugman, caught Obama using right-wing talking points on what to do about Social Security
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/16/opinion/16krugman.html

and about his health care plan.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/30/opinion/30krugman.html

His voting record is pro-business.
http://zmagsite.zmag.org/Feb2007/street0207.html

His voting record is pro-war.
http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?ItemID=12687

He glorifies American imperialism.
http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?ItemID=13396

He flip-flopped on the Palestinians and Israel, and now is AIPAC-approved.
http://www.motherjones.com/commentary/columns/2008/01/obamas-israel-shuffle.html

He has shown repeatedly what good friends he is with anti-gay African American preachers.
http://direland.typepad.com/direland/2007/11/obamas-anti-gay.html

He misuses history, according to a prominent historian.
http://hnn.us/roundup/entries/46866.html

He, uh, stretches the truth.
http://www.blackagendareport.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=463&Itemid=34

Example:

Trying to sound authentically African-American during a speech memorializing the forty-second anniversary of the 1965 Voting Rights March at the Pettis Bridge in Selma, Obama claimed that his black (Kenyan) father and white (Kansan) mother married and conceived the future Barockstar because of the great Civil Rights struggles fought in Selma and Birmingham, Alabama… (Obama 2007).

Wow. Too bad Barack Obama Jr. was born in 1961, two years before the famous campaign to desegregate Birmingham, three years before the Civil Rights Act, and four years before the famous Selma march!

More on his “gaffes”.
http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2007/03/sweet_column_item_obamas_gaffe.html

His chief political adviser is a Daley machine strategist.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/01/magazine/01axelrod.t.html

And then there’s his Tony Rezko problem.
http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/06/nobodys-hands-are-perfectly-clean-in-politics/

When are we Americans going to stop getting fooled and fooled and fooled again?

Carolyn Kay
MakeThemAccountable.com
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 12:54 PM
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4. So you're not talking up Hillary, just putting down Obama.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 12:58 PM
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5. But, isn't that exactly what you did in post #1?
Not talk up Obama, just put down Clinton?

:shrug:
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 01:03 PM
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6. I didn't start the post.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 01:06 PM
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7. The OP didn't criticize anyone. You started that in this thread.
Right?
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 01:28 PM
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9. I criticized Hillary Clinton on issues. Now you are turning on me.
Nice thing to do in a state forum.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 01:44 PM
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10. Um... turning what?
I'm sorry but I'm not following your line of thinking.

Not here to turn this into a GDP pissing match. I just didn't understand how you started with a criticism of Clinton and took issue when someone rebutted with a crticism of Obama.

I'll bow out of this discussion now.

Peace.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 12:04 PM
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2. Thanks for this. Right for me.
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 01:11 PM
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8. and Un-electable.
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Caro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 01:51 PM
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11. In your opinion.
And I disagree. In fact, I think the opposite. You ain't seen nothing like what the right wing will throw at Obama if he becomes the candidate.

Carolyn Kay
MakeThemAccountable.com
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cplummer Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:41 PM
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12. INSPIRING video
She really is an inspiration to so many...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9z-Aatd0wA
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Caro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:58 PM
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13. Thanks, cplummer
I think so, too.

Carolyn Kay
MakeThemAccountable.com
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