In your Opinion, what's the reddest part of Wisconsin?

[TheMightyFavog]

I'd have to say Oconto County. If most of the Oconto County residents had theur way, Democrats and liberals would be declared an "unprotected species", thereby letting anyone with a small game license shoot them on sight.

[MisterP]

1. Florence and Waukesha were reddest in '00 Chimp vs. Gore

[Dudley_DUright]

3. I use to live in Waukesha

and can confirm that it is highly republican. It is an affluent suburb of Milwaukee. Very different than Madison where my father now lives. :-)

[Dinger]

2. Shawano Co. Is Pretty Damn Bad, But Dave Obey Told Me . . .

Waukesha is the worst.

[RevCheesehead]

4. I'd have to agree, Ding.

And that confirms what I've heard from many, many people - including my cousins who live there. (they're Dems, by the way!)

[ninjamikey]

48. I'd have to agree with Shawano County.

Pretty red, even more than the voters wanted.

Error nets Bush 100 extra votes (from June 8, 2005 Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel)

[jef4wi]

5. and the winner (loser, actually) is:

the worst:
Washington County - went 69.98% for Bush
Waukesha - 67.25%
Ozaukee - 65.82%
Green Lake - 63.59%
Fond du Lac - 62.77%
Florence - 62.52%
Dodge - 61.35%

the best:
Menominee - 82.57% for Kerry
Dane - 66.02%
Douglas - 65.66%
Ashland - 63.10%
Milwaukee - 61.72%
Bayfield - 60.26%

I will have all results for all races in Nov on my website this week.

If you want the database, send me an email - along with what you want to do with it.

Most of it is broken down by ward - I put it together for candidate recuitment.

-jef-

p.s. - vote Rammelt/Hall

[TheMightyFavog]

6. What is it with these counties surrounding Milwaukee being so red?

Is it something in the water down there?

[htuttle]

8. Those are many of the people who fled Milwaukee during 'white flight'

I grew up in a small town in Waukesha county during the 60's and 70's.

When it was just an isolated small town during the early 60's, it was probably leaning Republican/Conservative, but I rememeber a lot of counter-influences, too. A few very liberal churches, etc...

But then the commuters came in and the character of the town I grew up in changed. More remote and distant, less forgiving, more 'scared' in general. We didn't used to lock our doors. Not even sure if we had a key! The sort of people who moved in couldn't imagine not locking their doors. They started whining about property taxes being too high, too.

From there on, it was all downhill.

BTW, I went to High School with Scott Jensen. He was an arrogant bastard back then, too.

[LiberalFighter]

9. That is the same for Indianapolis

They named it the doughnut effect.
The repugs moved out of Indianapolis into the surrounding counties. Not into outer part of Indianapolis because all of Marion County is Indianapolis as far as local govt is concerned.

Indy also has a ridiculous situation where they have "cities" within the border of Indianapolis that get to vote for two mayors. One for Indy and one for their small city.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

13. Same in Cincinnati...

We had our best showing ever in Hamilton County, but our good work was counter-balanced by the growth of the doughnut counties -- all heavily Republican.

[Liberal Chad from WI]

12. VOTE RAMELT/HALL

you got my vote at the state convention!

[Jimbo S]

15. I've never understood NW Wis being blue

Anyone fill me in why that is the case? The same with the Stevens Point/Wausau area.

[MessiahRp]

18. Lots of college kids?

UWSP is a pretty decent sized campus, no?

Just a guess.

Rp

[TheMightyFavog]

24. Why Stevens Point is blue.

UWSP and its college population is a big factor, plus you have lots of educated people working for the University and the buisnesses supporting it keep Point Pretty blue. You also have Union influence from the WSEU local at UWSP and from a number of union shops in the ares. Finally, you have a Catholic population that tends to feel that social issues are a greater concern for the church than birth control and abortion.

About the most conservative thing I ever saw Stevens Point voters do was strike down a ordincae that would have banned smoking in all workplaces, including restauraunts and bars. (I, myself opposed the ban on the grounds that it was too strict.)

[gizmo1979]

7. oostburg thru Mequon.

Nary a democrat in the bunch.The Oostburg bunch are the religious type wacko's too.

[TheMightyFavog]

10. Oostburg..

Isn't that where that asshat who wants to ban the UW health centers from giving out contraception and the morning after pill is from?

[gizmo1979]

11. That's the one.

And he's one of the moderates!

[Jimbo S]

14. A lot of Dutch there

Do they have a Dutch Reformed Church? I guess that gets awfully fundie.

[TheMightyFavog]

16. Nothing like the Dutch today I guess...

Although, It would be cool to have a little bit of Modern Amsterdam right in Wisconsin... :smoke:

[gizmo1979]

21. I'm not sure what church is there

I know there is one of those 1000 seaters just down the road from them.I don't venture into Oostburg to often.I get this deliverence vibe when I go there.:scared:

[Jimbo S]

38. Oostburg also was in the news about ten years ago

got into a big tiff regarding praying during the high school commencement.

[bobthedrummer]

17. Most of the Fox Valley imo

[MsUSA]

19. I'd say a lot of the western part of the state is quite red. eom

[DrGonzoLives]

20. No Adams county?

I've heard odd things about that place (cue banjo music).

[Draino]

22. Waukesha

Waukesha is the Repuke Powerhouse of the State.

[jef4wi]

23. Adams is a good blue county

52% for Kerry

[TheMightyFavog]

25. That's one of the things that strike me about Wisconsin...

Rural Eastern WI leans quite red, while rural Western WI, (especailly SW Wisconsin) tends to be bluer. I guess the Western Wisconsin farmers haven't drank the Kool-Aid put out by the NRA, the Anti-Choicers, and the DNR haters.

[jef4wi]

30. I have a theory...

It comes down to $$$$$, in my opinion.

SE WI is suburbs - they can afford to be on their high horse.

The rest of WI rural is rather poor, and older. These are the people that realize what Dems have done for them (some lived the new deal).

It goes to show that we, as a party, need to frame issues in economic terms first of all.

We should not go a day without telling someone how important economic justice is. This includes health insurance, jobs, outsourcing, tax policy, etc.

This is how we can win.

[Zynx]

26. Where I live in Waukesha County it was over three to one for Bush.

[MadisonProgressive]

27. Waukesha hands down!

[htuttle]

28. Questions about Waukesha

While I grew up in the area, it's been a few decades since I spent any time there.

I remember that Waukesha used to have a fairly sizeable blue-collar Latino community, primarily due to people moving there in the 1940s and 50s to work at the Waukesha Engine factory.

Is there still a large Latino neighborhood centered around The Strand near the old Jimmy's Grotto stand? (showing my age there, I guess). Do they vote Republican, too?

There are also at least 3 Unitarian churches in Waukesha county, and at least one or two UCC churches that I remember being very liberal (back in the 70s). Seems hard to believe that they vote Republican now -- anyone know?

While there are plenty of areas that are undoubtedly, unconvertably Republican in Waukesha County (such as New Berlin), I can't believe that Democrats can't get any traction there at all (though I'm sure it's changed a lot since I grew up there).

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

29. Something to ponder...

Think of the most Democrat-rich counties in Wisconsin. You're thinking Milwaukee and Dane, right? Number three on the list for most Kerry votes in 2004? Waukesha County. Yup.

I'm just sayin'...

[MadisonProgressive]

31. Don't tread on my prejudice and anger!!

LOL

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

32. My apologies...

I'll go spread my sunshine elsewhere. Now when's that next bus to Mississippi?

[joneschick]

33. and now Waukesha is home to

one very mega fundie church campus with many satelites. Just for fun sometime try listening to WVCY (97.1 I think)to find out who or what is currently being demonized. Lots of gay bashing and decrying the baby killers.
That, and lots of "I gots mine"

[Strangefire]

34. Waukesha!

>> Is there still a large Latino neighborhood centered around The Strand near the old Jimmy's Grotto stand? (showing my age there, I guess). Do they vote Republican, too? <<

I have myself a humble abode (okay, it's a decrepit 70-year-old apartment) in the center of the city of Waukesha (Jimmy's Grotto territory ;)) and yes, there is a very large Hispanic population here.

During the election, and to this day, I have seen more Kerry/Edwards bumperstickers on vehicles in the City of Waukesha than anywhere else in the county. Once you enter the Town of Waukesha suburbs (Brookfield is a glaring example) or the rural towns of the county, you can't go a mile without seeing a Bush/Cheney bumpersticker.

As a sidenote, all the folks I work with are either from the Town of Waukesha, Brookfield, or Hartland, and they're all Bush supporters. :eyes:

[htuttle]

35. Thanks!

Man, it's been 20 years since I had a ponza rotta! Then again, I think I'm *still* digesting the last one I ate....:crazy:

Anyway, I looked up some population figures, and there are a LOT more people in suburban Waukesha County than I remembered. There's about 375,000 in Waukesha County, but only about 60,000 in the City of Waukesha itself. Even if every Democrat in the city voted, we'd still have a long way to go there.

Gotta find some way to reach those suburbs, I think. Back when I lived there, you could have gotten somewhere with farm and small business issues in Waukesha County, but I bet farmers and small businesspersons aren't so numerous there now.

[gizmo1979]

36. There's a suburb of Milwaukee

that your lot has to be at least 2 acres lakefront 5 acres inland,average household income was 658,000 dollars,but the name escapes me,it started with a c I think.

[ClassWarrior]

37. The whole red/blue frame just helps the Radical RW and hurts us.

I say we drop it. As Dr. Dean said on Sunday, we're purple, we're all Americans.

NGU.

[RevCheesehead]

39. Good point, CW.

But then again, as long as we're "still blue", I don't mind it so much! :evilgrin:

[ClassWarrior]

41. Don't let down your guard - we're purpler than you think!

Sorta like that lava lamp...

NGU.

[RevCheesehead]

44. Never had one. :(

Mom wouldn't let me waste my money.

How are ya, doodle? I miss ya.

[AllyCat]

40. All of Washington County.

But Waukesha is a close second.

[ClassWarrior]

42. Hey you...

:hi:

How's Mad Town treating you??

NGU.

[AllyCat]

43. Hi! I've been reading but not posting

Very busy planning wedding, getting my sealegs at work, and training for the horse show season.

Madison is great as always, but I do miss Milwaukee. We were back this past weekend and might just come over on Monday for a little paddling out into the harbor.

Thanks for saying hey!

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

45. There's paddling in Milwaukee?

Woo Hoo! Who knew you Cheeseheads were kinky and all that?

Actually, is there a paddling club (you know the type I really mean) around these parts? I'm a novice kayaker and would like to know if there's a local group that plans trips.

[AllyCat]

46. I don't know if there is a group

but I imagine there must be. Maybe check in at REI or Laacke and Joy's to see if they have some signs up from different groups.

We just put in near the freighter docks, paddle around the big ships, and then head out into the harbor to ride the waves. It's really fun, especially if MMSD hasn't overflowed waste into the lake like they did last year :puke:

We always entertained putting in the Menomenee River in 'Tosa and going past Miller Park, but could never tell if there were impasses. Then it was so dry the rest of the summer last year, it was too shallow for even kayaks.

You can paddle the lakes out around Oconomowoc too and cruise down the Bark River too.

Whitewater kayaking? Uh probably not. But heading up the Milwaukee River and stopping at a pub for a beer is pretty fun too.

[rodeodance]

47. yes--roughly-the Fox Valley