Nationally, *'s share of the African-American vote rose from 9% to 11%?

[EuroObserver]

If this is a dupe, my apologies.

{quoting:}

Bush paid TV pundit to push education plan

Gary Younge in Washington
Saturday January 8, 2005
The Guardian
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1385818,00.html

The Bush administration paid an African-American pundit $240,000 (£127,000) to promote its education policies to the black community and urge other black journalists to do the same in the run-up to the presidential election.

In an effort to promote its controversial education reform programme, No Child Left Behind, the education department paid Armstrong Williams "to regularly comment on NCLB during the course of his broadcasts" on a nationally syndicated television show.

{...}

The contract was part of a $1m deal with the public relations company Ketchum to produce "video news releases" that looked like news reports - a device criticised by the government accountability office last year when used to push the administration's drug prescription plan.

Ketchum refused to comment.

The Bush administration heavily targeted black voters during the last election in an attempt to undermine the Democratic party's most loyal base.

Nationally, Mr Bush's share of the African-American vote rose from 9% to 11%. But in the key swing states of Florida and Ohio, his share almost doubled from 7% to 13% and 9% to 16% respectively.

{...}

(emphasis added). Is this last credible? Note very professional journalists being very careful what they say... I still find no direct mention of Thursday's objection in mainstream center-left UK or Spanish press.

[rhino47]

1. Malfunctions and voter fraud really boosts his numbers dont they?

It is hard to understand why anyone would vote for that war pig.
I do not think race plays into it.

[Angelique]

38. In this election something was different within the black community..

My grandmother, the same woman that marched with MLK in Selma, voted for *. As far as I know, this is her first time to vote for a Repuke since Ike.. She even tried to get my mother, and aunts to change. This is almost worth a doctor's visit to check her out, because she is as die-hard a liberal as anyone could expect.

[OKNancy]

2. Strictly my own observations

Just noticing the talk at my business, it seemed that there were more people from the evangelical churches who were turning toward Republicans and also the black professionals seemed to be more inclined to like Bush. Certainly not all, but enough that it surprised me and I even came home and told my husband that it worried me to hear such talk.

[Maria Celeste]

6. I saw much the same

At work and socially I saw that white collar professionals, especially those with kids were leaning towards Bush, as did almost everyone who was seriously religious, regardless of race.

[Darknyte7]

23. Your observation is correct...

Influential Black religious leaders, like T.D. Jakes out of Dallas, TX all but openly endorsed *, sighting issues like Gay marriage & Abortion not to mention the prospect of getting a hold of some of that Faith Based Federal Grant money.

Few Black folk listen to Armstrong Williams anyway, but the few that he would manage to influnce was no doubt worth the quarter of a million dollars from US tax payers at least the Karl Rove.

[hijinx87]

24. I also heard the same explanation; and it makes a lot of sense

I'm certainly not sure what the solution to that one is, though.

[Prodemsouth]

3. They had an extensive outreach to churches -that included African

American churches. They were especially aggressive in swing states esp Florida and Ohio. They looked at the pastor/minister- "was he somewhat outspoken on Abortion or gay rights". Were the sermons conservative. If these thing were present they targeted that African American church for voters. They sent campaigners (most likely Black) out to these churches to talk about these issues and direct voters toward Bush. I saw it going on in rural and suburban African American churches outside Atlanta. They were doing this out in the open - Kerry's campaign just was not paying attention - or laughed it off.

[Smarmie Doofus]

4. Did Bush's share of the AA vote in Georgia....

spike as it did in Ohio and Fla.?

[Prodemsouth]

8. I said they were especially aggressive in Ohio and Florida- were they

needed all they could get. Georgia was just attempting to pad out the majority of votes- Bush had Georgia before the campaign began. They went back into Churches that already were on record as being outspoke about Gay rights and abortion. A co worker who attends one of these "Mega Churches" but voted for Kerry told me about them coming to her church. She said several have moved since the election was over. These are campaigners who join or become active in a church with the attempt to bring people to vote for Bush. Nothing in Georgia on the scale of FL or OH. Haven't seen any break down, I believe he did a little better here with AA's than the last time.

[Philly Buster]

10. I agree

But for as hard as the R's worked for the AA vote I think their results were paltry.

Also Kerry just didn't really appeal to minority voters in the way that Clinton and others did.

I think democrats need to be careful not to take the minority vote for granted.

[Prodemsouth]

11. Yeah it was not like Rove Kicked butt with new AA voters- but in a close

election helps- shaving off three points of AAs, 10 points for Jewish voters, 5% plus Hispanics, it all adds up to victory.

[Wilms]

28. Add a touch of fraud, for good measure. n/t

[noamnety]

5. Did they get those percents from exit polls? (nt)

[EuroObserver]

13. A good question.

The article doesn't specify, but I don't have time to cross-check with what I've seen of Mitofsky's "exit survey" now today...

[bemis12]

14. Yes

There's no other place to get such information.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/states/US/P/00/epolls.0.html

[hijinx87]

25. they would have to.

ballots don't come with places to not your racial/ethnic group.

[EuroObserver]

29. Yes, I see that data now

But don't see where it came from (actual exit poll or the final 'massaged' "survey") See my post 26 below.

[ClintonTyree]

7. Not to mention Armstrong Williams.................

and gawd knows how many other Black Republican Pundits who were so "solidly" behind Bush and his agenda that they needed "more money" to spread the word. Propaganda, it works on whomever it's targeted.

[DoYouEverWonder]

9. Here's one of the ways Bush increased his share of the black vote

They had people all over FL go out into the black communities and focused on poor, elderly, illiterate black people to 'help' them register to vote and then went back to 'help' them fill out their ballots. That is how Bush increased his share of the black vote.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x271839

[dave123williams]

12. Yeah, that and gay-bashing; it trucks in Baptists churches.

[pocket]

15. there is an epidemic of sellouts these days

.

[Beth in VT]

16. this strains credulity. n/t

[L. Coyote]

17. What would the figure be if the minority vote was counted the same?

With studies emerging showing much higher rates of non-votes (undervotes) in minority areas, what would the true figure be if votes by African-Americans counted equally?

In the following graphic, all the precincts in Cuyahoga County with over 3.6% non-votes are compared with support for Bush. Meanwhile, for E-Vote Ohio counties the average non-vote is 0.76%.

[suston96]

18. Only one way...

Only way for Bush to get all those added AA votes was by "recalibration" of the voting and tabulating machines.

[goclark]

19. No way Jose did that happen!

There were too many that are Republicans that voted for Kerry.

The youth vote was way up.

That is a DIEBOLD and LONG LINE lie.

[ClintCooper2003]

20. Actually, this is credible. It was part of the original exit poll as well

[jmknapp]

21. Media lies

The media have been lying for Bush, pushing his election frame of choice since Nov. 2.

It's unbelievable that Bush's miniscule support among blacks would be spun somehow in his favor, but they evidently have no shame.

Here's a graph of Kerry support vs. black population in each of Cuyahoga County's 1436 precincts:



The cluster of precincts where the black population exceed 90% voted for Kerry in excess of 95%. The few outliers in that region are due to ballot mixups.

Bush's presidency should be seen for what it is: a reaction of white racists, and only enabled due to suppression and disenfranchisement of black voters.

[thanatonautos]

31. Outliers near 100% black in precinct look interesting.

It seems like there is a pretty tight group of
precincts with near 100% black voters and near
100% vote for Kerry.

But by eye, it looks as if there are more outliers
at low % of Kerry votes than one might expect from
the general pattern of scatter. It might just be
my eye playing tricks on me.

But has anyone looked specifically into those
precincts to see what's happening with them?

[jfern]

35. Already been discussed

Lots of places in ultra-Democratic black areas of Cleveland have 2 precincts voting at one polling place. They have different ballot orders, and people voted with the wrong precinct's voting materials, costing Kerry thousands of votes.

[thanatonautos]

36. Ah, OK, I hadn't realized those were the self-same precincts with

the ballot order problem. When I saw the first reports
about the ballot order issue, I thought it was in some
other county than Cuyahoga.

I was only an Ohio resident for a short time, so the
place names often confuse me.

[mod mom]

22. don't forget faith based initiative $

bribe the black churches with fed dollars. so much for seperation of church + state. It would be interesting to see how much of these dollars was placed in Ohio and Florida.

[1democracy]

37. Good insight

Gee- I never thought of that!

[EuroObserver]

26. But, if Mitofsky's "exit survey" data was corrupted

- by mixing in "actual" votes towards the end of the day - in terms of what proportion of votes went to which candidate,

- and if this "racially profiled" data could only come from the "real" exit poll data from earlier in the day (since the "actual" votes ae not so profiled),

- then - either this "race" data cannot be directly related to the "actual" vote (nor to Mitofsky's "final" totals), or else these figures were also massaged, fiddled, cooked in Mitofsky's "survey".

Where is the flaw in this logic?

Was similarly "profiled" data released (at the state level) along with the exit poll updates earlier in the day, and if so, were these percentages the same?

[EuroObserver]

27. Here is Gary Younge, btw:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Columnists/Column/0,5673,1363529,00.html

[EuroObserver]

30. Link includes email address... n/t

[seaclyr]

33. good point, EuroObserver n/t

[Carolab]

32. No surprise here.

This cabal will stoop to anything to collect votes/gain power--including buying role models among people of color, using evangelicals to get Christian voters, military figures who express troop support when they let them down, etc. I just would never have guessed that are so many willing "sellouts". I guess it's true that "every man has his price." But I wouldn't compromise my core values and tell blatant lies for any amount of money. I am not surprised so people buy into it, either. They believe what they see on tee-vee.

[jfern]

34. Largest changes show up by type of city/rural area

change since 2000 in paratheses

Cities over 500,000 Kerry +21 (Bush by 24)
Cities 50,000-500,000 Tie (Bush by 17)
Suburbs Bush +5 (Bush by 3)
Small towns/cities 10,000-50,000 Bush +2 (Kerry by 19)
Rural areas Bush + 19 (Kerry by 3)

source go here:
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/07/weekinreview/07conn.html?ex=1257570000&en=d4295da7fcc9b220& ;ei=5090&partner=rssuserland

click Chart: The Electorate: A Political Portrait