Alaska: Division of Elections Delays Release of Election Records

[Wilms]

Alaska: Division of Elections Delays Release of Election Records

Democrats Say Further Delay Not Warranted

By Kay Brown, Alaska Democratic Party

February 15, 2006

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The Division told the Alaska Democratic Party (ADP) that it has extended the deadline to provide the electronic file that contains the 2004 vote results until Feb. 27.

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Under the public records regulations, the Division was supposed to release the data file on Jan. 4. On Jan. 4 the Division extended the deadline until Jan. 19.

In a Jan. 19 letter, the Division asserted that the file was proprietary information belonging to its contractor, Diebold Elections Systems.

In a Feb. 3 letter, the Division advised the Democrats that Diebold had agreed to waive its proprietary rights to the GEMS database files, and said that the records would be provided if it is determined that the integrity of the election system can be protected. In the Feb. 3 letter the Division asked for an additional 10-day extension until Feb. 13, and the Democrats agreed. On Feb. 13, the Division again extended the deadline to Feb. 27, this time without asking the Democrats to agree.

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http://www.votetrustusa.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=929&Itemid=113

[Blue_In_AK]

1. These bastards...

It really makes you wonder, doesn't it? If Alaska's supposed to be so f****** red, what are they afraid of.

P.S. I really wonder if our fundie Republican Lieutenant Governor, who is in charge of elections, has something to hide.

[RufusEarl]

3. Die Bold

I suppose they need more time to get the counts correct, it's suppose to be so simple with computers! Yea right!

[Botany]

2. The dirt was not just in Ohio .....

Maryland
750,000 registered repugs produced ...... 1,200,000 bush votes
1,300,000 reg. dems produced roughly ...... 1,300,000 Kerry votes

A straight dem ticket in Indiana produced a vote for a 3rd party candidate @ the top of the ticket

Wyoming had 106% turn out of registered voters.

When the hell is America going to go the White House a rip that little cheating shit out?

They will delay until they can cover their tracks.

Somebody must know something ..... We need somebody to step forward and spill the beans.

[Wilms]

4. Don't forget NM, and even IO, and IN.

Something ain't right. And that's wrong.

[Botany]

5. you mean

Iowa where Kerry had a 12+ vote lead w/ 30% of the vote in and the final 70%
came in at 3 to 1 for bush and bush took the state?

or

New Mexico where every county that had optiscan went to bush even the ones
that went to Gore in 2000 and had more registered voters?

[Wilms]

6. Something like that...yeah.

:grr:

[Botany]

7. Smell test?

So it is feb of 06 and we still can not look @ the vote and the machines from nov
2004?

This stinks like Dick's hunting story.

[MissWaverly]

11. Here's the stats from Maryland

Kerry won with 1,334,493
Bush had 1,024,703
Here's why it is BS, these are registered voters who voted in the entire STATE of MARYLAND
1,340,778 78.89% of registered Dems voted
733,643 81.37% of registered Republicans voted
the other registered voters were Greens, Independents, et al.

Of course, I saw my voting machine default to Bush 5 times, I think the
election edge of George Bush came from the Ghost in the Machine.

[Wilms]

14. Thanks, I don't know that I had seen those numbers. n/t

[OnTheOtherHand]

15. sorry, no reason to expect Maryland to turn out like the reg numbers

Kerry led Maryland in the last three pre-election polls by 8, 17, and 11, and he won by 13. I dunno who expected Kerry to win MD by over 20 points based on registration figures.

(Someone upthread alluded to turnout in Wyoming -- well, Wyoming allows election day registration. So that isn't a good talking point either.)

[MissWaverly]

18. I believe it did

I believe that the most likely source for Kerry's 1,334,493 was from the registered
democrats, since they comprise one of the largest voting blocks in the state,
where else did those votes come from.

If that is true then there were only 6,285 democrats left who did not vote for Kerry.

There were only 733,643, registered Republicans voters that voted, I don't care if they voted for Donald Duck, Bush rec'd 1,024,703 final votes, where did they come from?

The only other place they could have come from is from the Greens, the Independents
and the small populist parties, which I don't think these voting blocks broke in
huge numbers for Bush. I think there were ghost votes in the machines and since
I myself saw my machine default to George Bush 5 times then I believe that is
what happened.

[OnTheOtherHand]

19. I don't think registration figures can be interpreted in that way

According to the exit polls -- and this is true for both unweighted and weighted results -- the proportion of self-identified Republicans was close to the proportion of registered Republicans in the 2004 electorate (about 30%), but the proportion of self-identified Democrats (about 45.5% UNWEIGHTED, 47.8% WEIGHTED) was less than the proportion of registered Democrats in the 2004 electorate (about 56%).

So, probably some registered Dems self-identified as independents (or even Reps), and some independents self-identified as Republicans.

That said, most self-identified Dems voted for Kerry, most self-identified Reps voted for Bush, and self-identified independents leaned Kerry -- there aren't nearly enough of them in the sample to pound the table about percentages, but probably +5 to +10 Kerry. However, according to the exit polls, weighted or unweighted, 10% or more of self-identified Dems voted for Bush, so there were a lot more than 6,285 Dems who didn't vote for Kerry. It works both ways: Kerry got a bunch of votes from Reps and (of course) Inds.

Now, were there ghost votes in the machines? Evidently in yours, although it still seems to me that the behavior you describe is the least effective way of trying to steal an election on DREs. But maybe we can compare with 2000, before Maryland had DREs. The Dems were up about 27 points in registration in 2000, the Dems were up about 26 points in registration in 2004, Gore won by about 16 points, and Kerry won by about 13 points. I could believe that it might actually have been 16 or 17 points (although from the pre-election polls, I don't really think so), but I sure wouldn't ratchet it up from there just based on the registration numbers.

[MissWaverly]

20. thanks for the intelligent reply

I just have a gut feeling based on the election results that Bush probably had the
same percentage of votes as the Republican candidate for mayor in Baltimore City,
he rec'd 12.26% of the vote, while Bush actually rec'd 16.81% in Baltimore City. That's
almost a 5% difference.

[Melissa G]

8. KnR! wilms and Botany.. you guys are so succinct! n/t

[IndyOp]

9. It will be a miracle if they get anything useful -

by now they could have altered everything. :shrug:

:grr:

[fearnobush]

10. Where the Fuck are our national Dem leaders on this Diebold issue?

I mean what the fuck people. I read Diebold threads everyday and not one mention about this systemic problem from ONE SINGLE DEM LEADER! Howard DEAN - Where the fuck are You! Nancy Poliose Where the fuck are you? John Kerry, where the fuck are you? Harry Ried, Where the Fuck are You? Where the fuck is the Democratic Party?

[roguevalley]

12. bush got 100K more votes with diebold than the straight

count. Our Lt. Governor, Loren Leman is a satanic looking fucker. I had an e-mail exchange with him once that still pisses me off. They had his marriage act thing and I wrote to him telling him damned nicely I might add how it could hurt families. I was so damned nice I almost didn't recognize myself. He wrote back ripping me a new one about being abusive! Gah! The next email he got ripped him a new behind. He's satanic. I will try and post a picture of him. Satan.

[Wilms]

13. And he posts pictures of blood related rituals on the state's server.

[Blue_In_AK]

17. Ewww, that's MUCH better than the one I found.

What a hateful freak he is.

[Blue_In_AK]

16. I always think of Ichabod Crane when I see him.

(Second from the left)

[Amaryllis]

21. Diebold wants to protect the integrity of their election system! Oxymoron.

"Diebold had agreed to waive its proprietary rights to the GEMS database files, and said that the records would be provided if it is determined that the integrity of the election system can be protected.