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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 07:16 PM
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Diebold spokesman makes idiotic statement - I roll on floor laughing.
Check out this article in the Salt Lake Tribune on the recently discovered security flaw in Diebold touch-screen voting systems. In it Diebold spokesman David Bear is quoted as saying "It's only a vulnerability to those who would commit a felony."

Well cripes David, then what are we worried about about? Why have any security at all? After all, any lack of security is only vulnerable to someone who is willing to commit a felony! And no one is willing to do that! Wow, I'll certainly sleep sounder now! :sarcasm:

:rofl:
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calmblueocean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 07:24 PM
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1. I couldn't believe anyone would say something that dumb. But he did.
Unbelievable. This is definitely an article that needs to be spread around. Diebold and David Bear come off as totally preposterous liars. Maybe if more people saw this, we'd get some change.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 07:24 PM
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2. i guess i shouldn't bother locking my doors.
after all, an unlocked door is only a vulnerability to those who would commit a felony....
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aasleka Donating Member (465 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 07:44 PM
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3. The real question is
Is there a way of proving someone hacked it?
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 11:50 AM
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12. no need to. the point is someone can. and in under 60 seconds.
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 01:22 AM
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9. How Canadian! That was on Bowling for Columbine
How people even in Toronto won't lock their doors yet there is very little crime. Something about trusting your neighbors.

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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 08:11 PM
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4. Fear of Felony - Why Did Diebold Leave NC?
So Diebold's spokesman says that the risk of being charged with a felony
is the key...

Hmmm... Diebold was certified in North Carolina but withdrew their bid.
Was it because of a fear of felony charges?

(Diebold even manufactures the touchscreens in Lexington NC!)

SECTION 2.(a) Part 2 of Article 14A of Chapter 163 of the General Statutes is amended by adding a new section to read:

"§ 163‑165.9A. Voting systems: requirements for voting systems vendors; penalties.

(a) Duties of Vendor. – Every vendor that has a contract to provide a voting system in North Carolina shall do all of the following:

(1) The vendor shall place in escrow with an independent escrow agent approved by the State Board of Elections all software that is relevant to functionality, setup, configuration, and operation of the voting system, including, but not limited to, a complete copy of the source and executable code, build scripts, object libraries, application program interfaces, and complete documentation of all aspects of the system including, but not limited to, compiling instructions, design documentation, technical documentation, user documentation, hardware and software specifications, drawings, records, and data. The State Board of Elections may require in its request for proposal that additional items be escrowed, and if any vendor that agrees in a contract to escrow additional items, those items shall be subject to the provisions of this section. The documentation shall include a list of programmers responsible for creating the software and a sworn affidavit that the source code includes all relevant program statements in low‑level and high‑level languages.

(2) The vendor shall notify the State Board of Elections of any change in any item required to be escrowed by subdivision (1) of this subsection.

(3) The chief executive officer of the vendor shall sign a sworn affidavit that the source code and other material in escrow is the same being used in its voting systems in this State. The chief executive officer shall ensure that the statement is true on a continuing basis.

(4) The vendor shall promptly notify the State Board of Elections and the county board of elections of any county using its voting system of any decertification of the same system in any state, of any defect in the same system known to have occurred anywhere, and of any relevant defect known to have occurred in similar systems.

(5) The vendor shall maintain an office in North Carolina with staff to service the contract.

(b) Penalties. – Willful violation of any of the duties in subsection (a) of this section is a Class G felony. Substitution of source code into an operating voting system without notification as provided by subdivision (a)(2) of this section is a Class I felony. In addition to any other applicable penalties, violations of this section are subject to a civil penalty to be assessed by the State Board of Elections in its discretion in an amount of up to one hundred thousand dollars ($100,000) per violation. A civil penalty assessed under this section shall be subject to the provisions of G.S. 163‑278.34(e)."

http://www.ncleg.net/Sessions/2005/Bills/Senate/HTML/S223v7.html

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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 10:04 PM
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5. They like the unknown. Will keep lots of Dems from voting being
so vague. Look for them not to solve this issue any time soon.
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 11:11 PM
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6. Good catch. Of course no govt officials ever wanted to commit felonies
K&R
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 12:10 AM
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7. After all, what is to gain?
Petty thieves and criminals are the only ones who would ever try to steal the presidency of the United States.

Why, decent people wouldn't even attempt to rig an election, would they?

It's all too, too... unpleasant to even contemplate, correct?
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 12:11 AM
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8. Wow, that's the lamest thing I've read all week.
What a shmuck.
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 01:32 AM
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10. reminds me of many arguments: it's illegal, so no one will do it!
This logic pertains towards just about everything: abortion, homosexuality, guns, drugs, prostitution, gambling, immigration. If you outlaw it, only outlaws will do it! Who wants to be an outlaw?

Nobody, I mean NOBODY would ever commit a felony. Our prisons are full of good innocent people who would never commit a felony. I trust felons more than I trust myself...or anyone else. If only those who would commit a felony have access to our nation's future then rest assured that our future is safe, secure, and Republican. Like a good felon, Diebold is there.

:silly:

George Orwell for president!
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 07:04 AM
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11. What a prick.
David may as well have been asking America if we're enjoying our shit sandwich.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 10:13 PM
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13. LOL!
:rofl:
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pauldp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 11:03 PM
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14. So tell me Mr. Bear, do you mean felons like the ones Diebold hired
for their mangement team? At least five of them convicted for felonies I believe.
:rofl:
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 08:51 AM
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15. That is an EXCELLENT comeback! n/t
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