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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 10:43 PM
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The Voting Crisis in America


Voting in America is in shambles. Whether you're a conservative or a liberal, we all have a vested interest in our right to vote. The future of America having a democracy depends on this. Right now in our present system the American public does not have access to our own voting records.

There is a bill before Congress by Democrat Holt that is very disturbing.


You should know this -- the following groups have come out against the new Holt Bill:

- Black Box Voting has publicly come out against the Bill
- Open Voting Consortium has publicly come out against the Bill
- Brad Friedman (BradBlog) has publicly come out against the Bill
- Jon Bonifaz (VoterAction.org / Demos) has publicly come out against the Bill
- Paul Lehto has publicly come out against the Bill
- Democracy for New Hampshire has publicly come out against the Bill

Decline to support:
- John Gideon (VotersUnite, VoteTrustUSA) has publicly refused to support the bill

and there will be more.

HERE'S WHY

http://www.all-politics.net/showthread.php?t=683
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galloglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 12:34 AM
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1. Crisis? There's no Crisis !!

This is a full-fledged, four wheeled, careening fuckin' catastrophe!

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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 03:01 AM
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2. Catastrophe, I'll say, lets look back
Florida's election laws<5> allow a candidate to request a county to conduct a manual recount, and Gore requested manual recounts in four Florida counties: Volusia, Palm Beach, Broward, and Miami-Dade. The four counties granted the request and began manual recounts. However, Florida law also required all counties to certify their election returns to the Florida Secretary of State within seven days of the election,<6> and several of the counties conducting manual recounts did not believe they could meet this deadline.

On November 14, the statutory deadline, the Florida Circuit Court ruled that the 7-day deadline was mandatory, but that the counties could amend their returns at a later date. The court also ruled that the Secretary, after "considering all attendant facts and circumstances," had discretion to include any late amended returns in the statewide certification.

<7> Prior to the 5 p.m. deadline on November 14, Volusia county completed its manual recount and certified its results. At 5 p.m., Florida Secretary of State Katherine Harris announced that she was in receipt of the certified returns from all 67 counties, while Palm Beach, Broward, and Miami-Dade counties were still conducting manual recounts

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_v._Gore

They seem to always call it, while we are still counting.

I think I see a pattern. :)
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diva77 Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 04:06 AM
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3. The Voting Crisis is a fabricated crisis much the same as the fabricated
"WMD" threat or the dwindling Social Security threat, and on and on - a phony crisis designed so that crony corporations can feed on the US Treasury.

All we have to do to solve the "voting crisis" is remove the vendors and revert to good 'ol fashioned HCPB and citizen participation


.:patriot:
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In Truth We Trust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 10:08 AM
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4. HCPB's NOW!!! k&r
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 04:31 PM
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5. K&r.(nt)
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