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NoBushSpokenHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 10:51 AM
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Please explain what can be done to ensure fair elections
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 10:55 AM
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1. Paper ballots counted by human beings
make interstate fraud much more difficult. Yes, we'll have to wait 2 weeks for results in close races, but who cares? It's not like the incoming Congress or Executive will have to take over the day after the election.

Anything else opens us to tyranny.
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 10:57 AM
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2. Remove private companies from the process entirely.
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DemzRock Donating Member (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 11:06 AM
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3. Nothing.. Oh, well..
OK, here:

Standardized paper ballots (like Canada). Polls close and open same time across contiguous US(like Canada). Voting is mandatory for all adults(like Australia). All counting is monitored by both major parties, PLUS a third neutral party. Computer tabulations are monitored and verified in multiple ways by both parties and two neutral companies/parties. Everything has a paper trail, AND is required to be archived for 100 years or more. No throwing away ballots after a couple of weeks. Oh, and finally, mandatory prison sentences for anyone convicted of voter fraud, especially if it involves messing with OTHER people's votes not just voting in the wrong precinct or something. Management proven to be involved with voter fraud gets LONG sentences in high security prisons and HEAVY fines. Also elections proven to be tainted over a small percentage call for special elections. There would have been a do-over for Bush/Gore. Also get rid of the Electoral College. Direct vote for Prez only.
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NoBushSpokenHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 11:20 AM
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4. What if we could get the majority of Democratic people to pull together?
What could be done?
Could we conceivably accomplish something positive before general election?
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DemzRock Donating Member (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 11:25 AM
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5. Not much n/t
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NoBushSpokenHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 12:18 PM
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6. I guess people really don't give a crap
The post in GDP is falling through the pages of time with 74 views, no posts...

I really do believe people care, they just don't know how to band behind anything but a candidate. Amazing. It may take action so the candidate can survive the election fraud that could happen...but they won't fight for it... excuse me while I to wrap my head around this.................
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 04:43 PM
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7. Here is one example:
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demodonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:10 AM
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8. !! Support the election integrity group of your choice with some $$ now !!
Edited on Fri Feb-22-08 12:12 AM by demodonkey

Folks are giving hundreds of millions to these campaigns, with nary a cent to the election integrity groups who are doing their best to organize now to protect the election as best we can.

So -- give at little something money-wise to Election Integrity now, especially if you can't give time.

The smaller groups and especially the state-level groups need support, ASAP.

Do it now. Don't wait until next December.

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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 01:04 AM
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9. The day of the election bring in the White Hat Hackers to disable,
(not vandalize or ruin) any and all electronic vote/counting and central tabulators for three weeks. Get 500 or 1000 Americans(split Dem & Rep) to secure each polling place and not let the Paper Ballots leave the polling place until they are Hand Counted (with cameras rolling) and then posted publicly, before the Ballots leave the polling place.

If you live in New York you will have to stay in the polling place throughout the day, keeping an eye out that no one messes with the mechanical totals, and at the end of voting take them totals (I believe they are on the back of the machine) and post them totals publicly before the mechanical vote counting machine leaves the polling place.

You asked how to "ensure fair elections" this is the only honest answer I can give you, This is the only way to do it for the 2008 election.


Kick and Recommended...

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