You can’t test our product unless you use our rigged test

[kster]

I hope everyone with the slightest shred of intelligence realizes that Sequoia is scamming the voting public. There’s a reason e-voting was kicked the fuck out of California, and that’s because it was completely unreliable AND you could hack it with a blackberry cellphone while sitting in your car outside of the polling station. Good thing New Jersey had a paper trail, otherwise they would have been scammed, either intentionally, or more likely just because the voting systems are so ’sensitive’ (i.e. shitty pieces of software that wouldn’t stand up under a non-managed review) that they just failed through sheer incompetence on the part o Sequoia. Why else would

they have clauses in their contract saying that you may not test their machines in any unapproved method? I can damned well assure you any hacker is going to be testing their machine in an unapproved method.

http://channel2.abortu.com/?p=17

I posted this because I liked the title, but a paper trail that Sequia has locked up in their vote/counting machine, is as useless as tits on a bull, unless we DEMAND that those ballots inside of the vote/counting machines remain at the polling place until we, you me and anyone else that wants to watch do a full hand count of all those ballots. The paper ballots "paper trail" belong to us, they are not the property of the politicians or the vendors please start treating the paper ballots like you own them, BECAUSE, YOU DO, WE ALL DO (PERIOD)

Kick...

[againes654]

1. Dan Rather did a report

on Sequoia that has me convinced (as if I wasn't already :tinfoilhat: ) that the election was rigged in 2000. It was an excellent report with 8 former employees that were working there in 2000 when they printed the paper ballots specifically for Fl.

[autorank]

2. They're a main feature in the suppression of the people. K*R

Voter suppressing is a real problem.

It is eclipsed by citizen suppression - the subjugation of all of us through these farces of
democracy.

The right is fond of their "End Times" scenarios. It's already here. We live in a nation
ruled by those who cannot and do not want to verify that they were elected. And they and their
paid minions scream about conspiracy theories the minute someone questions them.

Too late, the public knows and they're pissed off. Wait until they blind side Obama and knock
him out of the race. That will be the beginning of some serious push back by John Q. Citizen.

[kster]

4. Hillary, Obama and MCcain and all the other politicians are all Corporate soldiers

they keep marching on with the "make em feel like they live in a democracy SCAM" They should all be arrested, * the one thing he should be arrested for and yes I know he stole two elections but the one thing he should be arrested for is outing one of our troops.

Hand count the paper ballots and or "paper trail" AT THE POLLING PLACE, it is the only way for us to begin to clean out the attic.

;)

[autorank]

6. They're all cooperating in this one.

Not hard to fix the system, just takes some intentionality.

It's like the voting rights struggle. How hard is that. Every citizen has the right to vote, but
that's still a 'work in progress.'

They should just admit it - we want as few people voting as possible.

They've also assured that most elections are an office forever through redistricting that reduces
competitive races to just about zero. Clever. They stay in place until some massive change like
2004 and then that's not that massive because of the insecure privatized voting system. Clever again.

[kster]

7. Reminds me of rat poison, secret vote counting has eaten away

any TRUE Democratic people from holding a position of power in the government, Kucinich, Gore come to mind, as long as they (politicians/vendors can convince us)that we should trust the vote/counting machine's ballot total, because it has a "paper trail" and "we will count a certain % of the paper trail. We need to say screw that, we will count ALL the ballots by hand before the ballots leave the polling place.

As if I deposited a 100 dollar bill in the vote/counting machine, I would want to know what happened to that 100 dollar bill at the end of the day.

Hand Count em at the polling place... or as most of us have read "Please count your money before you leave the window" There is a reason the banks want you to hand count the paper money before you leave the window and thats the same reason I want to Hand Count the Paper Ballots before they leave the polling place.

MY TWO CENTS... :)

[Bonn1997]

8. You're right

I really thought the Democratic Party was better than this. But there's such blatant fishy stuff going on in the Democratic primaries and no one in the party even cares. Maybe Diebold has promised Hillary and Obama that if they keep quiet they'll never lose a Senate election and maybe that's good enough to keep them happy?

[kster]

9. "Soccer moms", " Nascar dads" "or "Undecideds"

Don't look at the highly rigged vote/counting machines, look at the "Soccer moms", " Nascar dads" "or "Undecideds" they are the ones that swung the election ...

Blah Blah blah

We need change, that change being, Hand Counting ALL the optical scanned/Paper Ballots/paper trail before they are permitted to leave the polling place.

Its really that simple. :)

Thanks and keep pushing the truth.

[Bonn1997]

10. I agree but

without the leadership of key members of the Democratic party, I don't think we'll ever get change. I think it's possible that elections will continue to be rigged for the next several decades.

[kster]

11. They will be rigged one way or the other, but, the good guys know how to rig it

thats the one thing they will live to regret, it is our hackers against their hackers.

I can hardly wait, Its going to be a showdown at the OK corral.

To many people know and understand the vote/counting scam to let it go unchecked.


Ask anyone you know "have you ever seen the ballots being counted" when they say no then ask them "why do you think that is?

The secret Vote/counting machines, days are numbered, the crooks may not be able to get their brains wrapped around that little fact, but that is a fact

Keep pushing :)

[Bonn1997]

12. Really?

I've just assumed hacking would have occurred by now if it was going to occur but I'm sure you know more about it than I do.

I am assuming, though, that whatever vote-counting system replaces the current one will be a system that simply makes it easier for those in office to steal elections and remain in office. The problem is that those in office get to determine how the voting that determines if they (and their political party) remain in office is counted.

[Wilms]

13. Good guys rigging????

You are most creative...and abusive toward newcomers.

Sad. :(

[Wilms]

3. That link needs a little repair work.

http://channel2.abortu.com/?p=176

That blogger's post needs some correction, too. Though it got kicked around a bit, e-voting wasn't kicked out of CA.

[kster]

5. Thanks Wilms...nt