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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:09 AM
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Voting in Pennsylvania



April 22, 2008
by Suzanne Erb (Posted by Dave Zirin)

As a blind voter, I have always wanted to vote privately and independently. In the past, poll workers have assisted me — sometimes only one — and I was not confident my votes had been cast as I intended.
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This year, a friend accompanied me to the polls. I didn’t have any trouble registering. I went over to one of the two Danaher Shoutronic paperless e-voting machines, and the poll worker said, “No no, we have the other one set up.” So I went to the machine he said was designated, and he asked me which party I wanted to vote in. I told him, and then I said that I didn’t hear the beep you’re supposed to hear when the machine is ready to be used. He said he thought he had done everything right and didn’t know what else to do.
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Meanwhile, I was feeling around to make sure that everything was properly connected. After about five minutes of two or three poll workers trying to set things up right, and reading the manual, one of the poll workers called someone (Danaher or City Hall, I don’t know). Whoever they called asked them if they had pushed the ADA button.

SNIP...The whole process took about forty minutes — about 30 minutes to vote in eight contests. Though I was able to vote privately and independently, I voted on a paperless e-voting machine, like most other Pennsylvanians, and still have no idea whether my votes were cast as I intended.


http://www.opednews.com/articles/genera_suzanne__080422_voting_in_pennsylvan.htm
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:12 AM
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1. Yep, isn't this a commentary. Those machines were supposedly designed
Edited on Wed Apr-23-08 01:13 AM by autorank
for people with handicaps. And then there's always this http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0804/S00288.htm

But move along, nothing for you here.
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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 02:37 AM
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6. So what do you make of it all?
Its the age of the INTERNET these politicians have to know about these machines but yet they remain silent about them, its becoming more and more obvious that Obama, Clinton and McCain are IN THIS TOGETHER, or else one or the other would speak out about the counting of the ballots, or in this case NO ballots.

Election Fraud in Pennsylvania? It isn't rove fixing the democratic primaries or else our candidates would have cried foul.

Its the Politicians Obama, Clinton and McCain who are committing fraud against us, I'm sorry, but there is no other way to put it, the three of them are the Illusionist/Puppets putting on a (show) election for us.

What are your thoughts on this?

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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:15 AM
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2. Hillary won, roll out the vote fraud conspiracies!
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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:24 AM
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3. Even the blind can see what you are missing
wheres your sidekick dumber at? :)
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:27 AM
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4. Do tell.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:28 AM
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5. Those blind voters get screwed around everytime I'll tell ya!
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:58 AM
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7. The "Help America Vote Act" was sold because it helped the blind
One of the national associations for the blind was a huge backer, very high visibility, of HAVA.
The whole process was to help the handicapped in general. The intelligent and prescient criticism
of HAVA at the time was brushed aside - why won't you help the handicapped. It was, of course, not
sincere. A survey by an upstate NY county found that of over 200 voters with handicaps, something
like 80% preferred to do what they always did - vote absentee.

So from a false premise, we have an election system that can't be verified at all, one that we
can't look at as citizens, one that experts can't adequately evaluate for a number of reasons.

That's the significance of the post.

It's no conspiracy since that implies a process that's hidden. This is all out in the open.

For this individual to take this long to vote is both unacceptable and a key point about the
current state of e-voting - it never delivered on what it promised and it created a completely
privatized voting system.

If you think Clinton is going to skate in the general if she wins, escape the potential for
manipulation, I commend your faith in humanity, your optimism, and your trust of the
Republican party. I don't share that but it has nothing much to do with Clinton, rather a
long history of lousy elections since e-voting became dominant, almost all of which screwed
the Democrats.
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